Auction alert: 20 gauge A.H. Fox CE double barrel shotgun…

A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun.
A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun.

Here’s your chance to pick up a rare double by one of America’s most collectible gunmakers. This A.H. Fox CE 20 gauge is coming up on Saturday, Jun 15, at Morphy Auctions in Denver, PA.

Fox’s Cs were mid-grade shotguns, a little fancy and sort of affordable. Finding one in 20 gauge is not an easy feat, and I bet this one will well above the estimate. Here are the full details on this SxS from the auctioneer:

A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun.
A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun.

Lot 174: A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun: Serial #: 202315. Manufactured date: 1910. Barrel length: 26″. Chamber length: 2-1/2″. Choke dimension: M & IC. Length of pull: 14″. Drop on the heel: 2-1/2″. Drop on the toe: 1-1/2″. Excellent shiny bores with a few frecklings of rust on barrels. Receiver shows trace of case coloring. Exceptional example of an “Ansley Fox” made in Philadelphia. Chromux fluid compressed steel. Barrels not factory length. Originality: 95%.
Condition (Fine). Estimate: $2,500-$4,000

A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun.
A.H. Fox CE Grade 20 GA Double Barrel Shotgun.

 

Is this A-grade Fox 20 gauge really worth $7,600?

Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun
Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun

When it comes to collecting, original condition rules. The more of it a shotgun has, the more collector’s will pay for it. But some prices can be too high, regardless of how crisp and original an item is. That’s what I thought when I saw this A.H. Fox A-grade.

While it sure looks nice and original, I wonder if someone will pay $7,600 for it. But if you’re a serious Fox collector, the answer is probably yes. After all, when are you going  to see another 20 gauge A grade as nice as this one?

Here’s more about it from the seller:

Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun
Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun

A.H Fox A Grade, 20 ga. 26” barrels choked M/F: AH Fox, Philadelphia, PA, chromox, double trigger, extractor, butt plate 99% barrel blue and trigger guard blue, not refinished. 99% perfect case color. Clean and tight, virtually a perfect gun, some minor handling marks (very minor) Super high conditioned gun with perfect screws. Graded Fox 20’s are extremely rare. 5lbs 15oz. 14 ¼” x 1 ½” x 2 7/8”. Price: $7,600.00

Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun
Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun
Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun
Minty A.H. Fox A-grade 20 gauge Double Barrel Side-by-Side Shotgun

This week’s good guns: powered by Gunsinternational.com

20 gauge Piotti King Double Barrels Side by Side Shotgun
20 gauge Piotti King Double Barrels Side by Side Shotgun

A lot of nice doubles came on the market this week. Here are a few that caught my eye at Gunsinternational.com.

F.LLI PIOTTI, SXS, Model King Royal, 20 GA: 28”, IC& M, DT, Straight Grip, Splinter Forearm, Smooth Concave Rib, H&H Royal Style Engraving, Casehardened Receiver, Checkered Butt, Dimensions 1 1/2 x 2 3/8 x 14 5/8 with 1/8 cast off, Weight 6#4oz, 3″ chambers, ID 3758, PERFECT Condition, UNFIRED. Price: $23,000.00

20 gauge Browing B25 Superposed Double Barrel Over-Under Shotgun, Color Case hardened Action
20 gauge Browing B25 Superposed Double Barrel Over-Under Shotgun, Color Case hardened Action

Browning B25 Superposed Traditional 20 ga: 28″ demi-block barrels – not monoblock. Factory fitted invector chokes. Action retains 100% case color hardening. Round knob, long tang stock of nicely figured European walnut with oil finish measures 1-1/4″ x 2-1/8″ x 14-3/8″ LOP over the original buttplate. This gun was produced in 1997 and is no longer available. In the original Browning case, with additional chokes in Browning-marked leather pouch, and all the original papers. 99.9% condition. Weighs just 6 lbs, 2 oz. Best price for this model on the market today! Price: $8,750

12 gauge Francotte 14E Double Barrels Side by Side Shotgun
12 gauge Francotte 14E Double Barrels Side by Side Shotgun

Francotte 14E 12 Gauge Ejector: This is a VL&D gun that is very near original condition. This gun has seen very little use. The action is very tight with a dolls head and a Greener crossbolt. The engraving is the standard 14E scroll on a case colour frame with 75% remaining. The barrels are 30″ with 95% blue and bores that measure: .728/.726 and chokes: .032/.030 bores are mirror. The stock is a pistol grip with a splinter and the buttstock has wonderful figure and great chequering including chequered sidepanels behind the action. The lop is 14 1/8″ to an original leatherfaced silvers pad and the drop is 3″. The gun weighs 7lbs 5oz. Price: $2650.00

10 gauge Lefever Double Barrels Side by Side Shotgun
10 gauge Lefever Double Barrels Side by Side Shotgun

LEFEVER G GRADE 10 GAUGE – HIGH ORIGINAL CONDITION: Here’s “collector quality” LeFever G Grade 10 Gauge with all the original finish. Excellent case color throughout. Great damascus pattern. Mirror bores. Tight on face. Famous “Compensated LeFever Action”. Engine turned rib. Right bore measures .778 with full choke while Left bore measures .777 also with full choke. Great wall thickness with minimum wall thickness of 47/1000. Chambers measure slightly more than 2 3/4″ perhaps 2 7/8″. Weight of gun is 9 LBS 8 1/2 OZ. Auto safety. Original LeFever butt plate.  Gun is tight on face. No cracks in wood. Shipping is $40. Stock dimensions follow. LOP – 14 1/4″. Drop at Comb – 1 3/4″. Drop at Heel – 2 3/4″. Price: $2,400

BERETTA 686 ONYX 20 GAUGE OVER UNDER SHOTGUN: 26 1/2″ BARRELS, SKEET AND IMPROVED CYLINDER TUBES INCLUDED, 99% OVERALL VERY CLEAN. Price: $1499

20 gauge Beretta Black Onyx Double Barrel Over-Under Shotgun
20 gauge Beretta Black Onyx Double Barrel Over-Under Shotgun

Born to hunt grouse: a rare A.H. Fox 20 gauge AE grade side-by-side…

A.H. Fox AE Grade Double Barrel Shotgun
A.H. Fox AE Grade Double Barrel Shotgun

The ultimate grouse gun: I’ve been searching for it for years.  This 20 gauge A.H. Fox AE double barrel shotgun on Gunbroker could be it. With double triggers, decent stock dimensions (1-1/2″ x 2-1/2″ x 14-1/4) and lots of original condition, it’s pretty much all I could want in an American side-by-side.

The A.H. Fox gun company billed their A grades as “…a gun that the discriminating sportsman will appreciate as to price and workmanship. It is not a cheap gun, but a more than good gun at a reasonable figure, and can be built to your own specifications without extra charge. The material and fittings are of superior FOX class.”

A.H. Fox made fewer than 4,000 graded 20 gauges, so any one you come across is a good find. And if you’ve ever thought about buying one, I suggest you act quickly. This auction is endings soon. Who knows when you’ll see another nice 20g Fox like it again?

A.H. Fox AE Grade Double Barrel Shotgun
A.H. Fox AE Grade Double Barrel Shotgun

Here’s more about the gun from the seller’s description:

From my personal collection. Very pretty little AE Grade 20 gauge Fox Gun. SN 203xx, marked “Made by A.H. Fox Gun Co Philadelphia PA USA” on barrels and “Ansley H Fox” on receiver sides. 2-3/4″ chambers, “Chromox Fluid Compressed Steel” marked on the 26″ tubes, choked Imp/Full (.015″/0.030″) 99% blue, 97% wood with some scraps and small hunting dings, 98% original case, perfect bores, no dents, no bulges, perfect mechanicals perfect, ejector operation, weight 6 pounds, stocked 1-1/2″ x 2-1/2″ x 14-1/4″ right hand shoot cast.In it’s original leather Leg of Mutton case. Great gun!

Good gun alert: this one won’t be on the market long…

20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun
20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun

Nice, original 20 gauge British doubles are hard to find – especially boxlocks as nice as this Charles Smith & Son side by side.

With 28″ barrels, ejectors, a 14 1/2″ stock, lots of original finish, and a very fair price (just $3599), I bet it won’t be around for very long.

Good Gun Alert: 20 gauge F. Beesley Boxlock…

In England, 12 gauge shotguns rule. That’s why it seems like you’ll see a dozen or more 12gs for every 16g or 20g double barrel you come across. And because many of the smaller-gauge guns were made for smaller people, these side-by-sides often have shorter barrels and stubby stocks.

20 gauge F. Beesley double barrel shotgun
20 gauge F. Beesley double barrel shotgun

That’s not the case with this Frederick Beesley 20 gauge boxlock ejector coming up to auction this weekend at Poulin’s Antiques. This gun has 28″ barrels and a 14″ stock–the kind of specs you find on most 12g British Boxlocks.

If you’re looking for a nice, lightweight 20 gauge side-by-side shotgun, this clean and very original double may be worth bidding on.

Here’s auctioneer’s complete listing:

Lot #2379: Cal. 20 Ga./ 2 1/2″. S# 2751. Bbl. 28″. Cylinder & 1/2 choke. Bbls. have nitro proof markings for 7/8 oz. of shot. Top rib marked “F. Beesley., 2 St. James’s Street, London, S.W.”

Box lock action with foliate scroll engraving. Automatic ejectors. Dbl. triggers. Checkered splintered forearm & straight grip stock of English walnut. LOP: 14 1/4″ to serrated butt; Drop at comb: 1 9/16″; Drop at butt: 2 3/16″; Weight: 5 lbs 2.3 oz.

CONDITION: bbls. have 80% blued finish with light scratches. Action has 60% case colors on receiver with 70% blue on floorplate & trigger guard. Tight action with sound mechanics. Very good bright bores.

UNATTACHED ACCESSORIES: canvas case with maker’s label containing cleaning rod, oil bottle, pewter parts container & cleaning accessories. (11-2236/DS). CURIO. $3000-4000.

Good gun alert: 20 gauge Webley & Scott Model 700…

Nice, clean English boxlock shotguns are tough to find–especially in anything other than 12 gauge. That’s why this 20 gauge Webley & Scott caught my eye. It’s looks like it’s in excellent, all original condition. And as a plus, it has 28″ barrels and stock looks pretty long.

20 gauge Webley & Scott double barrel shotgun
20 gauge Webley & Scott double barrel shotgun

In my experience, good guns always bring good money, regardless of the economy. So I’m interested to see what this double barrel shotgun will bring. Be the high bidder and it could be going home with you.

Good gun alert – Boss 20g SxS!!

Heads up! I just got a line on a 20g Boss SxS double barrel shotgun. It’s coming up to auction this Monday, September 21st, at 5pm. It is at Braswell Galleries in Norwalk, CT.

Boss & Company Trade Label
Boss & Co. Trade Label

I have not seen the gun, but I talked to the auctioneer about it. He told me it was a 20g with 26″ barrels, single trigger, splinter forend, and a straight grip. It’s cased and I was told that it was in 90%+ all original condition. This is its first time on the market.

It’s an early 9000-range serial number, so it was made from about the late 1950 to the early 1960s. While this is not the best era for a Boss, they did make some very nice guns during this period.

This double barrel is being sold without a reserve, so it could turn into a deal. I have not seen it or inspected it. However, if it’s all good and it really is in 90% all-original condition, I would say it’s a $40-$45,000 gun, full retail. A brand new 20g SxS from Boss & Co. is around $110,000 right now.

There are a few 20g Boss double barrels on the market right now. This one is nice. It was made in 1949 and the asking price is $57,500. Osprey also had this one. It’s another nice gun, from a better period. I’m not sure what he got for it – probably around $60,000 or more.

As for other Boss shotguns on the market, Lewis Drake has this minty 12g with 26″ bbls. He want $48,500 for it. There’s also this pair of round-body 12g Boss side-by-sides at Jaquas. Those guns are $90,000 – not a bad price, really. New today, those guns would easily cost you $200,000+.

Drop me a note if you want to know more about this gun or about any Boss shotguns.

Gregg@dogsanddoubles.com

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