Auction alert: Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun …

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

I’ve seen lots of hammer guns. LOTS. But this Tolley is totally new to me. It’s on Gunbroker.com now and it’s being sold at No Reserve. The listing ends tomorrow, 12/16/2018, @ 11:00 PM EST.

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

J & W Tolley, Gunmakers, was established around 1859 in Birmingham, England. They opened a shop in London in 1883, and in 1955, the final guns carrying the J & W Tolley name were made.

The double you see here was made early in the company’s history — around 1870 — and it has a couple unique features: the shape of its action and the way the barrels lock onto that action. Take a closer look at the pics to see what I mean.

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

BTW: Something else worth mentioning is how great this auction listing is. Not only are there a lot of pics, but the seller gives you a lot of info about the gun, including an outline of the gun’s flaws. A listing like this make me feel a lot better about bidding on this gun. I wish more sellers would follow this example.

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun: 1870s era, game-scene & scroll engraved Hammer gun. Established ca. 1859, Tolley gained their excellent reputation building top-shelf big bore shotguns and rifles. 8 lbs. dead-on and built like a tank with heavy duty top lever, back action locks, stout hammers & oversized “Mushroom-cap” firing pins. Has a unique, hidden fastener system that has to be one of the earliest examples of a hidden bite as Purdey’s, (known for 3rd bites) didn’t offer theirs until the late 1880s. Another unique feature is the cut-away “I-Beam” frame which was likely an attempt to shave off weight or to stiffen it up. Never the less, it gives the gun a distinctive look. To top it off, there’s an odd protrusion at the underside of the muzzles – most likely to prevent damage. The Ivory bead is also unusual on a gun from this period. This is a real piece of British gun innovation – we’ve never seen anything like it from any maker. The Game-scene & scroll engraving is top-rate and also unusual for a heavy-duty gun from this era. With sculpted percussion fences, detailed hammer filing, fine Damascus steel barrels, this gun is as distinctive as it is classy.

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

EXTERNAL CONDITION: Looks like the gun was stored on a wall as one side is clean and shows quite a bit of original finish whereas the exposed side has what appears to be a light coat of cabin soot. NOTE: An expert cleaning of the duller side would likely reveal some very nice condition. The barrels have nearly all of their original Chocolate brown and fine Damascus pattern – Barrel lettering and proof marks are clear and sharp. The action and balance of metal show no evidence of polishing or buffing – everything is crisp and sharp and mechanically excellent! Barrels are an UN-CUT 28 3/16” (see pic of muzzles). Bores are very shiny with just a few light blemishes scattered throughout and we’d rate them a solid 9.5 / 10. Chambers are 2 ¾” with bores measuring R: .0736 & L:.731 min walls @ .733 / Choked: R: .011 / R: .007. The Horn capped ½ grip stock with “Gentleman’s” dimensions measures 14 ¼” x 2 ¼ x 3 ¼” drop at heel. Don’t snicker at these dimensions – the gun shoulders quite well and the boys back in the day were well known for their high percentages using these measurements. 8 lbs. dead on.

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

FLAWS: There’s a small nick on the top outside of the L bbl. a few inches from the muzzles at the 12:00 position that’s barely visible from the inside. There’s also a 1/8” long sliver of wood missing alongside the top-tang (easy fix) and somebody made a small & careful attempt to remove some of the soot from the right side of the stock, but only a small patch – but that’s it. Take a close look at the wood-metal & metal-metal fit and the nearly spotless breech-face showing very little evidence of firing – this gun is tight and crisp! Lock-up is solid, gun is on the face and barrels ring true – no loose ribs! All-in-all, here’s a unique example that’s built like a tank from a well respected Birmingham maker in excellent condition. Sure, it’s had the screws turned a few times, and the bores touched-up, but the overall excellent, lightly used condition and unique design make this an unusual and rare find!

NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun
NO RESERVE, Excellent and Unique 12 gauge J&W Tolley English Hammergun

Wow! What a Parker: 20g BHE, 32″ bbls, straight grip…

Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32" barrels, Straight Grip
Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32″ barrels, Straight Grip

If you’re a Parker fanatic with deep pockets, grab your check book. Here’s a super rare one, and even though it’s 100 years old, it looks like this side-by-side remains in incredible original condition.

According to the Parker collector’s site, Parker Bros made just over 1,000 BH-grades (which are Quality Bs without hammers — BH). I imagine very, very few of those were 20 gauges with 32″ barrels, ejectors (the E in BHE) and straight grips.

Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32" barrels, Straight Grip
Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32″ barrels, Straight Grip

Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32″ barrelsVery rare, highly collectable 1916 Parker BHE (serial #174053) with straight stock and 32″ barrels. This Parker remains in high original condition with very good stock, B engraved receiver and Acme steel barrels. It is apparent that this shotgun has likely spent a lot of it’s 100 year old life tucked away in someone’s safe, leg-o-mutton gun case or closet. Shotguns of this quality rarely come up for as they are usually socked away in someone’s collection for many years and then passed on to family members, never to be seen by the general public. The consignor, after only a brief ownership, brought this Parker to me with hopes of alleviating homefront tensions. This little SxS features a straight stock, 32″ barrels with shiney bores, ejectors (which work with authority), “0” frame and double triggers. All desireable options for any SxS, but especially a high grade Parker. LOP is at 13 7/8″, DAC is 1 1/2″, DAH is 2 3/4″ and it weighs in at 6 lb 8 oz. Both bores measure .618 with .018 constriction on the right barrel and .024 on the left. Lock up is Parker tight and there is no movement between the barrels and the receiver with the forearm off. This is a seldom seen opportunity to own a high grade Parker. Also included with this Parker is the original leg-o-mutton case that A.T. DeForest bought for it. Price: P.O.R.

Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32" barrels, Straight Grip
Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32″ barrels, Straight Grip

Manufacturer: Parker
Model: BHE
Serial Number: 174053
Ejectors: yes
Metal Condition: very good
Wood Condition: verygood
Bore Condition: shiney
Barrels: 32 inch
Barrel Type: SxS
Action: boxlock

Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32" barrels, Straight Grip
Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32″ barrels, Straight Grip

Triggers: double
Gauge: 20
Stock: straight
Stock Comb: 1 1/2″
Stock Heel: 2 3/4″
LOP: 13 7/8″
Rib: solid
Weight: 6 lb 8 oz
Sights: single bead
Manufacture Date: 1916
Choke Left: full
Choke Right: mod
Engraving: B engraving

Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32" barrels, Straight Grip
Parker BHE SxS 20 gauge 32″ barrels, Straight Grip

Extras: Hard to find
Case: old leg-o-mutton

Absolutely awesome: A super rare 3-barrel shotgun …

SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE

What’s better than a double-barrel shotgun? How about a triple-barreled one.

While long guns with 3 barrels aren’t hard to find, top-quality 3-barrel shotguns are extremely scarce. John Dickson & Son made a few 3-barrel SxSs, and so did Westley Richards and  Boss & Co. Today, Johann Fanzoj builds high quality triple-barreled shotguns. These are best-quality guns, and they sell for €100,000+. (BTW: At the other end of the market, an outfit called Chiappa Firearms sell a Turkish-made 3-barrel shotgun call the Triple Threat. But from what I’ve seen, it’s junk.)
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE

The Frederick Surkamer 3-bbl shotgun you see here was built on design patented by a R.M Jenkins in the 1930s.  The front trigger serves as a double single trigger firing the 9 o’clock and 12 o’clock barrels.  The firing sequence is 9 o’clock barrel, 12 o’clock barrel, and then 3 o’clock barrel — if done in order. But if you want, you can also fire the 9 and 3 and then pull the front again for the 12.  You can also fire the 3 first space and then the 9 and 12.

What makes this design unique is that the ejectors track whichever barrels have been fired — making it the only true three-barrel, selective ejection firing system in existence. No matter which barrel you fire, the correct  ejector will trip a kick the hull clear of the chamber.
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE

Frederick Surkamer was  Chicago-area gunsmith who built custom rifles, worked for Von Lengerke & Antoine and Marshall Fields, and imported & finished drillings and shotguns from Europe.  I’ve been told that this 3-bbl gun was manufactured by him here in the United States. There are absolutely no proof marks on the gun anywhere, which helps supports this claim.

R.M. JENKINS SURKAMER THREE BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGEONE OF A  KIND GUN DESIGNED BY R.M. JENKINS FOR SURKAMER CHICAGO SERIAL #1 28″ BARRELS CYLINDER IC AND IM  CHOKES DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS, FIELD FOREARM PISTOL GRIP NEW CONDITION 6LBS 6 OZ X 2″ X 1 9/16: X 13 1/2″. Price: $45,000

SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE
SURKAMER/ R.M. JENKINS THREE-BARREL DRILLING PRE WAR ALL 20 GAUGE

On Ebay now: Vintage leather leg o’mutton shotgun case …

Vintage mutton leg shotgun case -- on Ebay now
Vintage mutton leg shotgun case — on Ebay now

This nice looking leg o’mutton case is on Ebay now. The listing ends tomorrow at Monday, 2:43PM, EST. So if you like it, bid away.

BTW: I’ve bought a couple cases from this seller. He’s first rate, and the cases I bought from him were just as described and very nice.

Vintage mutton leg shotgun case. No Makers name but it looks just like a RedHead case that I have. The is a compact case and will hold barrels up to 26.25″ long. The leather and stitching are in very good condition with no issues. See pictures for accurate description and condition. Please see my other items for more vintage shotgun accessories.

 

 

Wow – what a great looking J. Purdey percussion rifle …

J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore

A couples friends of mine are crazy about muzzleloading Purdeys. Take a look at this one and you’ll see why.

James Purdey built 809 double-barrel percussion rifles.  The first was sold in 1827 and the last — 32-bore back action for eccentric Scottish collector Charles Gordon — left Purdey’s in 1896.

According to the The Early Purdeys, this percussion rifle was sold by Purdey in August of 1847. It was a 50-bore (not a 50 caliber) with 27″ barrels.The JP marks on the underside of the barrels indicate that these barrels were forged by James Purdey (the firm), instead of being outsourced to barrel maker like Charles Lancaster (CL).

When this rifle was made, James Purdey had been running his own business for 31 years. Shotguns, rifles, and pistols like this built his reputation and established his firm as one of the top gunmakers in the UK.

J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore

J. Purdey, 314 1/2 Oxford Street, London, 50-bore Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage: Hammergun with stalking safeties. Scroll engraved furniture and lockplates. Barrel Inscribed ” J.Purdey. 314 1/2, Oxford Street, London”. Price: $19,999.99

Antique: Yes
Manufacturer: 1848
Caliber: 50-bore
Metal Condition: Refreshed at sometime showing strong damascus brown patterns , Bluing worn on lower hardware.

J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore

Wood Condition: Shows a few dings and scratches
Barrels: 27 Inch
Triggers: Double Triggers
Stock: Straight Grip.
Stock Dimensions: 14 1/8″ LOP
Butt Pad: Blued Steel Plate
Weight: 6 Lbs 2 Ozs
Sights: Open Sights

 

J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore
J. Purdey Percussion SxS, 1847 vintage, 50 bore

Auction Alert: Nice looking12g Lefever EE grade SxS shotgun…

LEFEVER ARMS CO. EE GRADE SIDELOCK SHOTGUN
LEFEVER ARMS CO. EE GRADE SHOTGUN

Here’s another nice double coming up this Friday at Poulin’s Auctions. This one is a hard to find 12 gauge, EE-grade Lefever with a straight grip. It looks like it’s in excellent original condition – especially for a 100+ year old SxS.

I’ve always thought Lefevers were the best-looking American doubles. With their sideplates, and slim proportions, they certainly are the most English looking. They tend to have the most “English” dimensions, too, and with it’s high, straight stock and long LOP, this one is a perfect example of what I mean. In its day, I bet this shotgun saw a lot of use on as a Pigeon gun. Today, it would be perfect on the clays course or for pheasants. And wherever you used it, it sure make a classy companion.

LEFEVER ARMS CO. EE GRADE SIDELOCK SHOTGUN
LEFEVER ARMS CO. EE GRADE SHOTGUN

Lot: 2567 LEFEVER ARMS CO. EE GRADE SHOTGUN: Cal. 12 Ga., 2 5/8″. S# 45457. Bbl. 30″ Krupp fluid steel. Brass front bead. Compensated sidelock action with cocking indicators. Engraving features vignette of pointing dogs with highlights of arabesque. Double triggers. Ejectors. Splinter forend & straight hand stock of hand checkered fine thin shell walnut. Toe line has name shield. LOP: 14 1/2″ over added London style pad. DAC: 1 1/2″. DAH: 2 3/16″. Stock cast off. 7 lb 14.7 oz. Choke restrictions: right-.014, left-.050. CONDITION: bbls. retain 50% fading blue with spots of corrosion. Action has case colors in protected areas with balance fading to patina. Stocks have lightly worn finish with numerous scratches & handling marks. Bright bores. Right bbl. has evidence of raised dent 10 1/2″ from muzzle. Left bbl. has raised dent 12 1/2″ from muzzle. Estimate: $2500-3500.

Auction Alert: Great Looking 12g Charles Daly Lindner Diamond Grade…

CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS
CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS

Here’s a super nice Charles Daly that’s coming up at Poulin’s Auction this Friday, March 13. It’s a Diamond Quality No. 275, which was one of Daly’s top grade doubles. These early Dalys were made in Prussia by the firm of Harold Lindner, and they’re some of the finest boxlock shotguns ever made. This one has some awesome color-case hardening on it, and the engraving on the bottom of the action is fantastic.

CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS
CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS
CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS
CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS

Lot: 2226A CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS: SHOTGUN. Cal. 12 Ga. S# 2006. Bbl. 30″ Excelsior Witten fluid steel. Lindner mfg. gun with top rib marked “CHARLES DALY DIAMOND QUALITY”. Scalloped boxlock action with side clips, cross bolt lock, cocking indicators having case colored finish. Breech end of bbls. & action have full coverage fine Arabesque scroll hand engraving. Floorplate has vignette featuring a setter at point. Trigger guard vignette features 3 partridge. Double triggers. Ejectors. Splinter forearm & round knob stock of fancy thin shell walnut with fine hand checkering. Horn forearm cap & round knob grip insert. Toe line has German silver nameplate with initial “HGS”. LOP: 14 1/8″ over leather faced age hardened London style pad. DAC: 1 1/2″. DAC: 2 3/4″. Weight: 7lb. 11.6 oz. Bore diameter: right-.722 left: .722. Choke restriction: right-.045″ left-.045. Chambers 2 3/4″. CONDITION: 85% bbl. blue with scattered scratches with spots of freckling. Action retains 75% case colors. Stocks have good finish with light checkering wear & scattered light marks. Very good bright bores. ESTIMATE $4000-6000.

CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS
CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN DIAMOND QUALITY NO. 275 SXS

Wow – check out the condition on this 130-year old W. & C. Scott…

10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887

Here’s a stunning SxS shotgun. This 10 -gauge W.  & C. Scott is almost 130 years old and it looks like it’s close to new and all original:

W. C. Scott & Sons SXS 10 GA, 30″ barrels Full and Full 14″ LOP 9.8 pounds great bores nice tight lockup.

This shotgun is an  W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triplex, Scott’s B-grade hammerless double and one step down from The Premier, their best quality double. (Scott also made at least two back-action “Premier Extra Specials” during this time, but I don’t think that grade was ever officially offered by the company.) The color-case hardening is fantastic and I love the acorns chiseled on the locks and action. The brown on the bbls is great, too and so is the blueing (note: Those bbls were browned originally and never finished in black & white like some people believe). Check out the shape of the stock, too. Nobody makes stocks like that anymore.

Scott made back-action Excellentia’s from 1884 to 1888. I think this one was made in 1887. It’s on a Scott & Baker patent action and it has Scott & Baker patent gas checks, a version of Scott’s patent Triplex Lever Grip and Crystal Cocked Indicators and Needham & Hinton-patent Block Safety (intercepting sears) on the locks. What a gun.

If you have a Scott shotgun and are looking to find out more about it or sell it, please let me know. I would be happy to help you with it.

10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887

 

A beautiful 10g hammergun by John Dickson & Sons…

John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun

John Dickson & Sons is Scotland most famous gunmaker. Established in 1820, Dickson first made a name for itself in the 1840s with their fine “Improved Two Grooved Rifles”, a modified version of the British Army’s Brunswick rifle. Later in 1880, the company patented their famous  Round Action trigger plate shotgun. In between, they built the 10 bore hammer gun you see.

This double was sold by Dickson in December, 1875, and it looks very original. As you can tell from the specs, it’s big, heavy gun, probably made for pigeon shooting or waterfowling. I would love to get my hands on it and find out how those 32″ barrels feel.

John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun: Barrel: 32″, Stock: 141/2“, Chokes: 1/8 & 1/8, Weight: 8lb. 2oz. Bore: Left thou, Right thou, Min Wall: Left 35th thou, Right 35th thou, Circa: 1873 Trigger: 2, Ejection: Yes, Serial #: 3179. Price: £6,995

John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun

Auction alert: 12g Charles Daly Diamond Quality, Lindner-made SxS…

Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge

I’ve written a lot about Charles Daly shotguns — and for good reason. Up until the mid-1930s, Daly shotguns were some of the finest doubles sold in the US.

Charles Daly was a businessman, not a gunmaker. Around 1875 he partnered with August Shoverling to import shotguns into the United States. These side-by-sides were marketed under the Charles Daly name, and early on they were built by serveral different makers.

By the time this gun was built, Daly had established a relationship with a German gunmaker named Harold Lindner. The Lindner-Daly relationship lasted from the end of the 19th century until around WW1, and produced some of the finest boxlock shotguns ever made.

This Daly is Gunauction.com now at No Reserve and the listing ends December 21, 2014, @ 17:27:00 PT.

BTW: You can see more nice Charles Dalys that I’ve written about here and here.

Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge

Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge

Model: Side by Side

Serial Number: 307

Year of Manufacture: Pre-1890 (Crown over Crossed Pistols Proof)

Gauge: 12 Gauge

Action Type: Side by Side (SxS) with Dual Triggers and Automatic Ejectors

Markings: The lock plates are marked “CHARLES DALY THURINGIA”. The underside of the receiver is engraved with a pointing dog and pheasant game scene. The underside of the trigger guard is decorated with a Deer. The bottom tang is marked “307”. The top tang is marked “SAFE” in gold. The water table is marked “307”. The metal oval insert on the belly of the buttstock is marked “D.B. RESS”. The top rib is marked “CHARLES DALY EXTRA FINE DAMASCUS BARRELS DIAMOND QUALITY”. The underside of the left barrel is marked “LE”. Both barrels are marked “SAXONY” and with crossed pistols with a crown above them. The underside of the right barrel is marked “453”. The right barrel flat is marked “307”. The forend hardware is marked “307”.

Barrel Length: 28”

Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge

Choke: Both bores measure .715” at the muzzle.

Sights / Optics: This shotgun is mounted with a steel bead front sight.

Stock Configuration & Condition: The stocks are checkered walnut. The forend has some compression marks. The buttstock has a rounded pistol grip. The butt of the pistol grip has an oval recession. There are light scratches, compression marks and handling marks throughout. The belly of the buttstock has an oval piece of metal inlayed which is marked “D.B. Ress”. The LOP measures 14 ¼” from the front of the forward trigger to the back of the horn buttplate. There are small holes in the buttplate. The stocks rate in about Very Good overall condition.

Finish Originality: All Original

Bore Condition: The bores are bright. There are a few light scratches down the length of the bores. There is no erosion.

Overall Condition: This shotgun retains about 50% of its metal finish. The balance of the finish shows some pinprick surface erosion and frosting on the underside of the receiver and trigger guard. The barrel shows a light brown patina. The Herringbone Damascus pattern is still very visible. The screw heads are sharp. The markings are clear. Overall, this shotgun rates in about Very Good condition.

Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge

Mechanics: The action functions Correctly. We have not fired this shotgun.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: None

Our Assessment: This was a Charles Daly marked shotgun made in Germany by Heinrich Lindner. This particular model is a Diamond quality with fine engraving and special Manufacture Extra Damascus barrels which were said to be five times more expensive than the standard Damascus. This is truly a quality firearm and was made to last. This is for the collector and is in great functioning condition.

 

Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge
Lindner Made Charles Daly SxS Shotgun, Diamond Quality SN307, 1800s Antique 12 Gauge

Last minute alert: Vintage American SxS shotguns going off today…

Here’s an auction just found out about. It’s full of vintage American double barrel shotguns – Lefevers, L.C. Smith, Parkers, Foxes, etc – and some look real nice. Z B Barfield in Hallwood, VA, is having the sale and it starts today @ 11:30 AM EST. Below are some of the SxSs that caught my eye. BTW: this is a very buyer-beware sale. The descriptions of the guns are awful, and the pics are worse. Be careful if you’re bidding blind.

Lot 241: Lefever double barrel 10ga shotgun Damascus Barrel length 32in Length of pull 14in SN 13593

Lefever double barrel 10ga shotgun Damascus Barrel length 32in Length of pull 14in SN 13593
Lefever double barrel 10ga shotgun Damascus Barrel length 32in Length of pull 14in SN 13593

 

Lot 243: Lefever double barrel 12ga shotgun Steel barrel length 28in Length of pull 13.5in SN 59491G

Lefever double barrel 12ga shotgun Steel barrel length 28in Length of pull 13.5in SN 59491G
Lefever double barrel 12ga shotgun Steel barrel length 28in Length of pull 13.5in SN 59491G

 

Lot 249: Lefever double barrel 20ga shotgun Steel barrel Length 28in Length of pull 13 3/4in SN 60029

Lot 249: Lefever double barrel 20ga shotgun Steel barrel Length 28in Length of pull 13 3/4in SN 60029
Lot 249: Lefever double barrel 20ga shotgun Steel barrel Length 28in Length of pull 13 3/4in SN 60029

 

Lot 300: L.C.Smith double barrel Crown Grade 12ga Highly engraved 30in steel barrel length of pull14in SN 68025

Lot 300: L.C.Smith double barrel Crown Grade 12ga Highly engraved 30in steel barrel length of pull14in SN 68025
Lot 300: L.C.Smith double barrel Crown Grade 12ga Highly engraved 30in steel barrel length of pull14in SN 68025

 

Lot 310: Iver Johnson Skeeter .410ga barrel length 28in length of pull 14.25in SN 25593

Iver Johnson Skeeter .410ga barrel length 28in length of pull 14.25in SN 25593
Iver Johnson Skeeter .410ga barrel length 28in length of pull 14.25in SN 25593

 

Lot 314: Iver Johnson Hercules grade 20ga barrel length 28in length of pull 14in SN 24152

Lot 314: Iver Johnson Hercules grade 20ga barrel length 28in length of pull 14in SN 24152
Lot 314: Iver Johnson Hercules grade 20ga barrel length 28in length of pull 14in SN 24152

 

Lot 361: Ithaca 20ga w 28in steel barrel length of pull14in SN 469973

Lot 361: Ithaca 20ga w 28in steel barrel length of pull14in SN 469973
Lot 361: Ithaca 20ga w 28in steel barrel length of pull14in SN 469973

 

Lot 363: Ansley Fox 12ga w 32in steel barrel length of pull 14in SN 19419 BE Grade

Ansley Fox 12ga w 32in steel barrel length of pull 14in SN 19419 BE Grade
Ansley Fox 12ga w 32in steel barrel length of pull 14in SN 19419 BE Grade

Auction alert: a real nice 12g W & C Scott hammergun…

12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition
12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition

Here’s another nice double barrel shotgun coming up tomorrow, 3/8, @ Poulin’s auction. It’s a W. & C Scott, with a ton of original condition and — amazingly — its original hang tag and case. W. & C Scott was founded in 1840 by brothers William & Charles, and their company went on to become one of the most important gunmakers in the world. In 1897, the firm merged with P. Webley to form Webley & Scott. Up until around WW2, Webley & Scott was one of the largest gunmakers in the world.

The side-by-side Scott you see here was made around 1885. It’s a mid-grade gun. Mid- and lower-grade doubles were usually used hard, so it’s incredible to see all the original color-case hardening, bbl brown, and oil finish. on this one. The gun is beautifully made, too. Just take a look through the pics at the bottom of this post to see what I mean.

12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition
12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition

The fact that this gun also comes with its original, handwritten hang tag and case with the dealer’s label is another plus. The gun was retailed by William Read & Son, Washington St, Boston, and I can’t believe both those items have made it through the last 129 years.

12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition
12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition

W & C SCOTT SxS HAMMER SHOTGUN: Cal. 12 Ga., 2 1/2″. S# 36941. Bbls. 30″ Damascus steel. Fixed full & full chokes. Top rib marked “W&C Scott & Son. Makers & Patentees. London.” Case colored bar lock action with low style, rebounding circular hammers. Fine foliate scroll engraving featuring a swan on the left lock. Double triggers. Extractors. Splinter forend, with Scott-patent, pull down release lever. Round-knob stock of hand checkered fancy English walnut. LOP: 14 1/8″ over original checkered buttplate. DAC: 1 7/8″. DAH: 3 1/4″. Stock is cast off. Weight: 8 Lbs., 1 oz. Minimum wall thickness L. .040 & R. .040.

CONDITION: Bbls. retain 85% original brown finish having spots of light freckling & showing vivid Damascus pattern. Locks retain 90% original bright case colors with applied lacquer. Action retains 70% original bright case colors fading to patina in carry areas. Stock and forend have good original finish showing light wear with a few light marks & scratches. Very good, bright bores. UNATTACHED ACCESSORIES: original W.C. Scott & Son hang tag, numbered to gun, featuring original specifications. Upper right corner of tag missing. Original case with William Read & Sons trade label. Case in poor condition. ESTIMATE: $3000-4500

12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition
12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885, incredible condition

 

Original Hang Tag for 12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885
Original Hang Tag for 12 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun, 1885

 

    Original case  for W. & C. Scott shotgun, provided by retailer
Original case for W. & C. Scott shotgun, provided by retailer

 

Original William Read & Sons case label for W. & C. Scott shotgun
Original William Read & Sons case label for W. & C. Scott shotgun

 

Late auction alert: Krider, Greener, Parker, Browning, Darne, & more…

Carol Watson’s Orange Coast Auctions in Irvine, CA, is having a big gun auction this weekend, starting tomorrow, 8/3 @ 10am, Pacific. There are a lot of shotguns coming up. Here are a few of the doubles that caught my eye:

John Krider, Phila. 8 Ga. Perc. Market Double Barrel Shotgun:
John Krider, Phila. 8 Ga. Perc. Market Double Barrel Shotgun

John Krider, Phila. 8 Ga. Perc. Market Shotgun: Philadelphia made 8 Ga. Percussion Double Barrel Market Shotgun, by John Krider, 28” barrels, sideplates, hammer, triggerguard and buttplate are lightly engraved and marked ”John Krider”; barrel flat engraved ”Philadelphia”. Condition is about fine with trace case colors to lockplate and hammers. Barrels have toned brown. Checkering shows only the slightest flattening with a very small repair at toe of stock. Good functioning action, good bores, with beautiful original hickory ramrod. Estimate: $8,000-$10,000.

Remington Grade 2 Model 1878 SxS Double Barrel Shotgun
Remington Grade 2 Model 1878 SxS Double Barrel Shotgun

Remington Grade 2 Model 1878 SxS Shotgun: Heavy Duck Side-by-Side Shotgun, #6033, 10 ga., 32” damascus barrels, checkered stock and forend, steel buttplate, case hardened frame, hammers and thumb lever. Mfg’d 1878-1882. Condition is very good retaining approx. 20%-30% thinning and toning brown to barrels, 50% thinning and silvering case colors to frame, hammer and lever. Stock with slight scuffs and dings, minor flattening to checks at pistol grip and somewhat more moderate to forend. Missing the head of left hammer screw. Action is crisp, bores are bright. Estimate : $800-$1,200.

 12 gauge Parker Bros. G Grade SxS Double Barrel Shotgun
12 gauge Parker Bros. G Grade SxS Double Barrel Shotgun

Parker G Grade SxS Shotgun: #131065, 12 ga., 28” fine damascus barrels, lightly engraved case hardened frame, select figured American pistol-grip checkered stock, Parker Bros. hard rubber checkered butt pad, double trigger with extractors. Mfg’d 1904. Condition is fine to near excellent. Barrel shows just minor thinning to damascus pattern, with minor thinning to case color on frame at balance point. Stock shows minor flattening to checks, somewhat more pronounced on forend, with minor impressions. Action is crisp, bores are right. Estimate: $1,500-$2,000.

Lot # 217 W.W. Greener ''The Trapgun'' SxS Shotgun
Lot # 217 W.W. Greener ”The Trapgun” SxS Shotgun

W.W. Greener ”The Trapgun” SxS Shotgun: #35004, 12 ga., 27-3/4” damascus barrels with unchoked bores, smooth game rib, exposed hammers, double trigger, with Prince of Wales pistol-grip checkered walnut stock and large heavy beavertail forend. Top of barrels marked ”W.W. Greener THE TRAPGUN. 68 Haymarket, London”. Mfg’d approx. 1886. Condition is fine with light thinning and silvering to damascene patterned barrels. Frame and sidelocks retain approx. 75% original finish. Stocks with light scuffs and minor flattening to checks. Action is tight, bores are bright. Front bead is missing, and barrels may have been shortened. Length of pull 14”. Estimate: $1,800-$2,400.

Lot # 222 16 gauge Darne Model R-13 SxS Sliding Breech Shotgun
Lot # 222 16 gauge Darne Model R-13 SxS Sliding Breech Shotgun

16 gauge Darne Model R-13 SxS Sliding Breech Shotgun: 27” blue barrels, floral engraved case hardened frame, double triggers, ejectors, straight checkered stock and horn-tipped forend, with leather sling. Condition is very good to near fine retaining approx. 92% re-blackened barrels. Case colors to frame have mostly gone silver. Stock with minor flattening, small holes to left side cheekpiece from an old cheek pad, repair at heel behind rear sling swivel, and ¼” hole just forward of triggerguard that may be original. Buttplate shows repairs and is missing lower screw. Action is crisp, bores are fine and bright. Estimate: $800-$1,200.

One-of-a-Kind Angelo Bee Exhibition Grade Engraved and 4-Color Gold Inlaid Belgian Browning Model 25
One-of-a-Kind Angelo Bee Exhibition Grade Engraved and 4-Color Gold Inlaid Belgian Browning Model 25

One-of-a-Kind Angelo Bee Exhibition Grade Engraved and 4-Color Gold Inlaid Belgian Browning Model 25: Over/Under Shotgun, #2883F69, 28 ga., 26-1/2” vent rib barrel, straight grip Exhibition Grade walnut stock with false three-piece checkered forend. Left scene depicts fighting pheasants; right scene with pintail ducks setting down, with classic Belgian scrolls and gold inlaid flora. Bottom of stock is extensively inlaid with multi-colored gold wire design and game birds. Buttstock is additionally inlaid with false sidelock type plates with large duck and pheasant motif in gold. Angelo Bee told us that it was is first foray into double border inlays in his career and this gun is from his personal collection. Condition is excellent with breathtaking designs. Estimate: $18,000-$24,000.

Auction alert: exceptional 12 gauge Stephen Grant side by side…

12 gauge Stephen Grant & Sons Best Quality London Sidelock, double barrel SxS shotgun
12 gauge Stephen Grant & Sons Best Quality London Sidelock, double barrel SxS shotgun

Stephen Grant was one of the 19th century’s finest gunmakers. Today, he may be one of the under appreciated. Born in 1821 in Tipperary, Ireland, he started his apprenticeship in Dublin and then moved to London where he worked with Charles Lancaster and Thomas Boss.

In 1867, Grant went out on his own. He quickly became one of England’s top gunmakers with warrants from cream-of-the-crop royals like the Prince of Wales, Queen Elizabeth, and the King of Spain, as well as orders from Aristos and rich people from around the world. By the time of his death in 1898, Stephen Grant was one of London’s most respected gunmakers. If you take a good look at the wonderful 12 gauge Stephen Grant pictured here, you’ll see why – and why his shotguns are as nice as anything turned out by Purdey, Holland & Holland, or Boss.

12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897

This Grant is coming up in Little John’s annual May antique and sporting guns auction which starts today. It was made around 1897. The tight, scroll engraving, fluted fences, and sidelever-action are all signature styles of Grant doubles. I’m 99.9% certain that it was re-barrelled by Atkin, Grant & Lang in the 1950s, and the new, fluid-steel bbls look like they’re close to untouched since then. Here’s more about it from the auctioneer:

12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897

Lot 545: 12 gauge Stephen Grant & Sons Best Quality London Sidelock, double barrel SxS shotgun: Serial # 6957. Originally one of a pair. The gun is cased in and leather covered oak case. 28” barrels, double triggers, auto-ejectors. Nitro proved for 2 ½” shells, 3 ton proof on each barrel. Choke IC/Mod. Barrels show 90% to 95% original blue with good sharp markings and edges with wall thickness measuring .35 right and .38 left. The action and lock plates retain 50% to 70% original case hardening. The stocks are very good plus with excellent wood to metal fit and crisp checkering. 14 ¼” LOP, 2 1/4” drop at the heel and 2” drop at the comb with slight cast off approximately ¼” at the toe and 5/8” at heel . The bore is bright. The case shows a red felt interior with some slight repairs in areas where rubbed but is in overall at least good to very good condition. Est.: $5000-$10,000

12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897
12 gauge Stephen Grant Double Barrel Shotgun with Sidelever, 1897

Good gun alert: an awesome 16 gauge J.P. Sauer hammergun…

16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun

Here’s a great looking hammergun that just hit the market. It’s a 100+ year old J.P. Sauer & Sohn, and it looks like it’s in super original condition. Check out all the color on the action and the great figure in the French walnut stock, too.

With its cheekpiece, sling swivels, and horn triggerguard, this this double is very Germanic. But thanks to the English-style, straight-gripped stock, it still looks sleek and elegant.

Here’s more info on it from the seller:

 16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn Double Barrel Hammer Shotgun: This is one of the finest original-condition Sauer & Sohn hammer guns that you will ever see. Features a bar-action, rebounding locks, pierced horn pistol grip, horn butt plate with Orion logo and Bernard Damascus barrels. Full-coverage acanthus leaf engraving in the Arts & Crafts style with locks signed “Louis Delp Darmstadt”. Table has all Sauer trademarks: Large crown, small crown, S&S with crossed rifles and crown, Orion figure and Gothic S. We date this gun to the late 1870s to late 1880s. Shows no actual use and only very minor signs of storage with a few slight dents to the stock and a slight scuffing on the right barrel. We are convinced that this gun has over 95% original, untouched finish. It has been held in the same family for three generations. A perfect candidate for any Concours d’Elegance in museum quality for a very favorable price! 29 1/2″ bbls, 2 1/2″ chambers, Chokes: Cylinder & Mod, 14 1/8″ LOP, 6lb. 6oz. overall. Price: $3,449.99

16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun
16 gauge J.P. Sauer & Sohn hammer shotgun

 

Auction alert: a 12 gauge Charles Ingram hammer shotgun…

Charles Ingram, gunmaker, rifle shooter. Courtesy, Mitchell Library, The Bailie, Scotland
Charles Ingram, gunmaker, rifle shooter. Courtesy, Mitchell Library, The Bailie, Scotland

If hammerguns are your thing, this 12 gauge Charles Ingram side-by-side should get you excited. The auction ends 4/22/2013 @ 10:22:41 PM EST, so if you like it, you should move on right away.

Charles Ingram was born in 1816.. A gunmaker and marksman, he opened Glasgow’s first gunmaking business in 1836. The operation was a success, and it lasted until 1945 — well passed Mr Ingram’s death in 1885.

Ingram called himself a “gun manufacturer” and his shotguns and rifles were highly regarded in throughout Scotland. In his rifles, Ingram combined his gunmaking and shooting skills to turn out impressive long-range target rifles like the one you see here.

12 gauge Charles Ingram Double Barrel Hammergun
12 gauge Charles Ingram Double Barrel Hammergun

The side-by-side hammer shotgun here looks like a solid, mid-grade double. Judging by the keyed forend, and what looks like rebounding hammers, it was probably made in the 1870s. I’m not sure how it locks up, though. There appears to be some kind extension coming off the breech end of the barrels. I’m not sure if it’s an Ingram-patent, or if it’s a design borrowed from another maker. Too bad the pictures fail to show it more.

12 gauge Charles Ingram Double Barrel Hammergun
12 gauge Charles Ingram Double Barrel Hammergun

Here’s more about the shotgun from the seller:

Charles Ingram 12 gauge Side-by-Side Double Hammer Double: Circa 1870. This beautiful gun was made, & marked, “Charles Ingram 18b Renfield St Glasgow”. Features include; 30″ uncut barrels, 13.5″lop, dt, extractors & is nicely engraved. Finish on metal & wood appears original. Bores show some pitting.

12 gauge Charles Ingram Double Barrel Hammergun
12 gauge Charles Ingram Double Barrel Hammergun

Worth a closer look: More nice shotguns coming up at Julia’s…

THEATE FRERES 28 GA. DOUBLE BARREL HAMMER SHOTGUN
THEATE FRERES 28 GA. DOUBLE BARREL HAMMER SHOTGUN

Nice hammerguns are to find. So when I saw these three on Saturday at the preview for James D. Julia’s 3/12 auction, I stopped and gave each one a closer look. They’re nice shotguns, and all three –a 28 gauge, a 20 gauge, and a lightweight 20 gauge — are very hard to find.

LOT: 2202. THEATE FRERES 28 GA. HAMMER GUN. SN 2135. Cal. 28 ga. 2-3/4″ Chambers. 29-1/2″ Dovetailed steel bbls are gold inlaid “Acier Extra” (Extra steel) and “Para Polvora Sem Fumaca” (For smokeless powder) on tops, which are also stamped “Theate Freres” and “Liege”. Raised, matted game rib is gold inlaid “Casa Laport”, breech end “28”. Bbl flats are stamped with Belgian nitro proofs for 28 ga 2-3/4″ chambers. Coin finished back sidelock hammer action features square crossbolt third fastener, side clips, and double triggers. Locks have rebounding hammers. Action is engraved with rudimentary scroll, and dog pointing flushing duck on each side. Nicely figured European walnut straight grip buttstock measures 14-7/8″ over red open sided pad. Matching forend has Anson release. Bore diameter: left-.555, right -.550. Bore restrictions: left -.030 (extra full), right -.020 (full). Wall thickness: left -.024, right -.026. Drop at heel: 2-3/8″, drop at comb: 1-1/4″. Weight: 5 lbs. 4 oz. LOP: 14-7/8″.

CONDITION: Excellent, retaining nearly all of its orig finish on wood and metal, bottom of action browned somewhat. Pad is petrified. Wood has some minor marks. Sling eyes have been removed from bbl and butt (replaced by Phillips screw). Bores are excellent, bright and shiny. Action is tight. Bbls are on face. Locks are crisp. Hammers are a bit loose on tumblers. Twenty-eight gauge hammer guns in this kind of condition are hard to find, especially with long bbls and stock. This sleek little gun should be a lot of fun to shoot.

Estimate: $1,500-$2,500

WILLIAM POWELL BAR IN WOOD 20 Gauge Double Barrel Hammer Shotgun
WILLIAM POWELL BAR IN WOOD 20 Gauge Double Barrel Hammer Shotgun

LOT: 2183. WILLIAM POWELL BAR IN WOOD 20 BORE HAMMER GUN. SN 6920. Cal. 20 ga. 2-1/2″ Chambers. 29″ Blued Damascus bbls are engraved “William Powell & Son, 13, Carrs Lane, Birmingham” on broad, concave game rib. Bottoms of bbls are stamped with Birmingham black powder proofs for 20 bore and 22 muzzle, and “Not for Ball”. Bar in wood action is stamped “Powell’s Patent” on water table, referring to locking system, which in this case uses a pivoting top lever and mid mounted crossbolt instead of the usual Powell push-up lever. Rebounding sidelocks have high spurred, round bodied, serpentine hammers. Action and locks are engraved with nicely cut medium scroll. “William Powell & Son” is on each lockplate. Trigger plate has double ball finial with SN on tang. Trigger guard is scroll engraved on bow. Nicely marbled European walnut straight grip buttstock measures 14-1/16″ over leather faced Silver type pad with white line spacer. Flat top point pattern checkering is at grip and a vacant silver oval is on toe line. Matching, but fully checkered, splinter forend has Anson release with Anson patent marking on iron. Bore diameter: left-.622, right -.623. Bore restrictions: left -.015 (mod), right -.014 (mod). Wall thickness: left -.033, right -.035. Drop at heel: 2-7/16″, drop at comb: 1-1/2″. Weight: 5 lbs. 13 oz. LOP: 14-1/16″.

CONDITION: Good. Bbls retain most of an old matte re-black, no Damascus pattern showing. Action and lockplates mostly cleaned to pewter gray, with scant traces of orig color hardening visible where protected by hammers. Stock retains most of an old oil finish over visible sanding marks. Checkering re-run long ago on buttstock. Forend checkering is considerably worn. Action is slightly loose even though punch marks, from “blacksmith” tightening, are visible at hook and locking lug. Locks are crisp. Left hammer screw is a modern replacement. Bores are bright and shiny with some scattered pits. A rare, high grade small bore hammer gun that’s certainly worth restoring to its former glory.

Estimate: $1,500-$2,500

12 gauge W. & C. Scott Zephyr Lightweight Double Barrel Hammer Shotgun
12 gauge W. & C. Scott Zephyr Lightweight Double Barrel Hammer Shotgun

LOT: 2181. W. & C. SCOTT “THE ZEPHYR” HAMMER GUN. SN 46949. (ca 1893) Cal. 12 ga. 2-3/4″ Chambers. This unusual lightweight gun has 28-3/16″ two stripe Damascus bbls with concave, matted game rib engraved “W & C Scott & Son Makers & Patentees London.” on unmatted portion. Top of left bbl is engraved “The Zephyr”. Bbl flats are stamped with Birmingham black powder proofs, “Choke”, and “England”. Special lightweight action with tiny bar mounting rebounding hammer back action sidelocks derives extra strength from dolls head extension. Action is engraved with about 50% coverage medium scroll. Sidelocks are engraved with semi-relief shaded oak leaves. Locks are engraved “W & C Scott & Son”. Scroll engraved trigger guard has SN at grip. Broadly striped and nicely figured European walnut Prince of Wales grip buttstock measures 13-7/8″ over Silver pad, and features flat top point pattern checkering with mullered borders, and a vacant silver oval on toe line. Fully checkered splinter forend has engraved metal tip and pluck-off tension spring release. Bore diameter: left-.734, right -.734. Bore restrictions: left -.030 (full), right -.010 (IC). Wall thickness: left -.029, right -.032. Drop at heel: 3-1/4″, drop at comb: 1-7/8″. Weight: 5 lbs. 9 oz. LOP: 13-7/8″.

CONDITION: Fine. Bbls retain nearly all of a very fine re-brown with good definition to pattern, over some scattered pitting. Action retains approx 30% orig case hardening color where protected, but is mostly pewter gray. Stocks retain most of an old rubbed oil finish with a few subsequent minor marks, checkering competently re-cut. All restoration work appears to have been done quite a long while ago. Action is tight. Bbls are somewhat off face. Dolls head shows some peaning. Locks are crisp. Left hammer is an unengraved replacement, but is of the correct style. Bores are very fine, shiny throughout, with some light frosting. Overall, a very unique and classic shotgun.

Estimate $1,000-$1,500

 

Good Gun Alert: a .410 Francotte with 30″ barrels and a long stock…

.410 Auguste Francotte Side-by-Side shotgun, 30" Barrels
.410 Auguste Francotte Side-by-Side shotgun, 30″ Barrels

The firm of Auguste Francotte & Cie made a ton of guns, pistols, rifles, and especially shotguns. The company started out around 1805 and by the end of the 19th century and up in to the 1950s, their shotguns were imported into this country by Schoverling Daly & Gales and then Abercrombie & Fitch. The shotguns these companies brought in ranged from plain, “Knockabout” models like this and went all the way to ultra-fancy examples like this sidelock .410.

They also brought in the one you see here. This one looks to me like a Grade 14E. Even though this one of the lower-grade boxlocks that Shoverling, Daly, & Gales imported, it was still a very well made shotgun. In it day it was probably as pricey as a higher grade Foxes L.C. Smiths. Here’s the rest of the info on it from the seller:

.410 Auguste Francotte Side-by-Side shotgun, 30" Barrels
.410 Auguste Francotte Side-by-Side shotgun, 30″ Barrels

Auguste Francotte Pre-War Original Premium Grade BL model: Baby Frame 410ga., 2 bbl. set,. #1 bbl.,30″ tapered swamp rib, double ivory choked F/IM, #2bbl. factory original 26″ tapered swamp rib, double ivory choked SK/SK, 1 forearm, Anson & Deely action, DT’s, auto ejectors, fancy English scroll engraving on 40% CC left side baby frame, 4 1/2 lbs., exotic Bastogne Black Forrest walnut straight stock, 28 line checkering W/ checkered side panels, 15″ LOP over solid leather pad, 1″ total drop modern shooting specs, 98% blue bbls., 20% – 30% OA original CC, lightest of handling, ,hickory cleaning rod, snap caps, oil bottle, cased & ready for field. Price: $14,999.00.

Comparing double rifles by Holland & Holland & James Purdey…

A .303 side-by-side double rifle by James Purdey & Sons
A .303 side-by-side double rifle by James Purdey & Sons
Side-by-side double rifles by James Purdey &  Holland & Holland
Side-by-side double rifles by James Purdey & Holland & Holland
Side-by-side double rifle Holland & Holland
Side-by-side double rifle Holland & Holland
Side-by-side double rifles by James Purdey & Holland & Holland
Side-by-side double rifles by James Purdey & Holland & Holland
Extension on a James Purdey & Sons .303 Side by Side Double Rifle
Extension on a James Purdey & Sons .303 Side by Side Double Rifle
Holland & Holland case label, circa 1895
Holland & Holland case label, circa 1895
H&H ammo on left, .303 Purdey ammo on right
H&H ammo on left, .303 Purdey ammo on right
James Purdey & Sons case label, circa 1895
James Purdey & Sons case label, circa 1895

Last week I put up this post about shooting a James Purdey & Sons .303 double rifle. I had a lot of questions about that rifle, and I wanted to share some more pictures of it with you.

I also snapped some pics of a Holland & Holland double rifle that I saw the same day. The H&H was made for a larger cartridge. But because the cartridge was a black-powder load that generated lower pressures, H&H made this rifle much smaller and trimmer.

 

This week’s good guns, powered by Gunsinternational.com…

A bunch of nice looking shotguns popped up this week on Gunsinternational.com. Here are five of my favorites:

20g Woodward Over & Under double barrel shotgun
20g Woodward Over & Under double barrel shotgun

Woodward 20 ga. O/U:  With 26″ barrels, raised file cut solid rib. Original 2-3/4″ chambers, choked improved cylinder and modified, bores measure as new. Southgate type automatic ejectors, classic configuration, double triggers, straight hand stock. Brilliant case colors over the entire action serve as a vibrant background for the fine rose and scroll engraving in the pre-war style and execution.

Westley Richards 20 Ga. Drop Lock: Westley Richards Drop Lock Ser. No. 17429 28″ barrels choked .005″/.010″ 2 3/4″ chambers. SST, SG and Ej. Scalloped frame, scroll engraved with leather covered pad. 14 1/4″X 1 1/2″X 2″ with beautiful wood. Comes with leather case. A wonderful classic bird gun weighing 5 lbs 8 ozs.

12g A.H. Fox A-grade double barrel shotgun, stunning original condition
12g A.H. Fox A-grade double barrel shotgun, stunning original condition

A. H. Fox “A Grade” 12 ga: 28″ Krupp steel barrels choked improved cylinder and extra full (005/040). Outstanding condition throughout, 95% brilliant case colors, 99% original lustrous blue including all the original blue remaining on the trigger guard.

Boss & Co. side lever hammer gun in excellent original condition: this 12g Boss has near 80% or better original case color. 30″ bbls. Seldom do we see a Boss in this nice a condition.

PARKER O GRADE TOP LEVER HAMMER 10 GAUGE: THE BEST TWIST STEEL HAMMER GUN THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED 32″ PARKER TWIST BARRELS WITH PERFECT BORES AND FINISH ON THE BARRELS 2 7/8 CHAMBERS DOUBLE TRIGGER EXTRACTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP DOGS HEAD BUTT LOTS OF CASE COLOR 10LB 6 OZ X 3 1/4 X 2 X 14 3/8

PARKER O GRADE TOP LEVER HAMMER 10 GAUGE
PARKER O GRADE TOP LEVER HAMMER 10 GAUGE
12g Boss side-by-side hammergun, stunning original condition
12g Boss side-by-side hammergun, stunning original condition

Buying and collecting antique shotguns: a discussion with Martin Willis..

Antique Auction Forum
Antique Auction Forum

Martin Willis is one America’s leading experts on antiques. His website the Antique Auction Forum is a great place to learn all about the business of buying, selling , and collecting them. Last weekend I sat down  with Martin and talked about one of my favorite subjects — collecting antique shotguns.

You can listen to our discussion here. Our discussion covered everything from my favorites to the dark side of collecting – fakes and phonies – and how to protect yourself from them. I hope you enjoy it.

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