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Boss & Co. 12 gauge Best Quality and extremely rare self opening London sidelock
Boss & Co. 12 gauge Best Quality and extremely rare self opening London sidelock

Boss & Co. 12 gauge Best Quality and extremely rare self opening London sidelockThis Boss was built between the wars and is one of only 56 ever made as a true self opener. Having excellent original wall thickness and dimensions this fine Boss correctly and elegantly represents what is considered the paragon of British gun making, the Boss BEST sidelock ejector. This Boss comes in a correct VC (stands for Very Compact) motor case and is truly ready for the field and to be appreciated by its new owner. Price: $32,000.00
Serial Number: 8355
Ejectors: Yes
Barrels: 28″, Choke: IC, Skeet 1
Action: Sidelock ejector
LOP: 14 1/8″ (13 11/16″ o
Weight: 6 lbs. 5 oz.
Choke
Proof: Nitro: 2 1/2″

 Reilly 8 Bore underlever hammer double rifle

Reilly 8 Bore underlever hammer double rifle

Reilly 8 Bore underlever hammer double rifleFully rifled 8 Bore Jones underlever rebounding hammer double rifle. 24″ damascus barrels with strong rifling with minor pitting in front of the chambers. Bores are very good. The full lenth rib has a dolls head extension with one fixed sight and one folding sight. This double rifle was made about 1892 and is very very similar to the Holland and Manton 8 Bore double rifles and was probably made by the same maker. The right weight for an 8 Bore at 16 pounds 8.8 ounces with the barrel weight at 9 pounds 12 ounces. The twist is about 1 in 56 indicating a conical bullet rifle. The chambers are 3 1/4″. The double rifle locks up on face and is mechanically in very very good condition. It is border engraved and the  makers name is on both back action locks.The pull is 14 3/8 ” over what looks to be a horn butt plate. The stock is solid and very sound with NO proud metal. Wood to metal fit is very very good also! The barrels were rebrowned in England and retain about 95% finish. The stock has the correct patina as you would expect for an English double rifle, the checkering is crisp. The stock has a shadowline Holland style cheekpiece and is in excellent condition. The screw heads are in good condition showing very little wear. The detriment to the rifle is the pitting over the action, locks, underlever and forend iron. The pitting does NOT effect the use of the rifle and could be polished out and the border engraving recut. Price: $15,950 

 PARKER BROS., MODEL DHE., 20 GA., 0 FRAME. Price: $12,500

PARKER BROS., MODEL DHE., 20 GA., 0 FRAME. Price: $12,500

PARKER BROS., MODEL DHE., 20 GA., 0 FRAME. Price: $12,500
ID #   6140
Make   PARKER BROS
Model   DHE
Configuration   SXS
Gauge / Caliber   20 GA
Serial #    236110
Country of Origin   America
Barrel Length (in Inches) 26
Choke R/U   M (Modified)
Choke L/O    F (Full)
Trigger   DT (Double)
Stock Configuration   Pistol Grip
Forearm Type   Splinter Forearm
Rib Type   Matted Concave Rib
Receiver Finish   Casehardened – TRACES OF COLOR IN PROTECTED AREAS
Engraving Type   DHE: Fine Scroll w/ Cameos Engraving
Other Options   0 FRAME, FACTORY DOGS HEAD BUTT. GOLD OVAL
Condition   Near EXC. Condition, ALL ORIGINAL
Weight   5LB 12 OZ
Dimensions    DAC 1-1/2, DAH 2-5/8, LOP 14, C/O 1/4
Other Details    BRADY BROS. LEATHER CASE, PARKER BROS. FACTORY PAPERS, LIGHT WEIGHT GAME GUN

Manufrance Ideal 16g #4 SxS Shotgun
Manufrance Ideal 16g #4 SxS Shotgun

Manufrance Ideal #4 SxS Shotgun16GA, 2 3/4″ chambers, double trigger extractors, 28 M&F with mint bores, 100% color case in the protected areas and 60% around the action, 60% on the rest of the gun with nice open engraving. Original blue. Nice piece of wood, straight grip with retractable sling. Original butt plate. This gun is in excellent condition and has a very tight action. Dimensions are 14 x 1 1/4 x 2 1/4, weight 5lb 13oz. It is very hard to find a round action gun like this one. Price: $3,500

Beretta 471 Side x Side ~ 20 GaugeWith original factory hard case and manual Price: $2,699.99 Manufacturer: S/N – S10351A
Caliber: 20 GA
Chambers: 3
Metal Condition: Excellent
Wood Condition: Very Good / Excellent

Beretta 471 Side x Side ~ 20 Gauge
Beretta 471 Side x Side ~ 20 Gauge

Bore Condition: Mirror
Barrels: 28
Triggers: Factory
Stock: Checkered Walnut
Stock Dimensions:
14-1/4″ LOP
Fore End: Checkered Walnut
Butt Pad: Brown Rubber
Weight: 6lb 15oz
Sights: Bead Front
Chokes: CYL X IC

The Outlaw: An 8 gauge Parker PH…

8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun
8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun

There are two types of side-by-side shotguns that always thrill guys: The small ones (28s & .410s) and the big ones–like the eight gauge Parker you see here.

Eight gauges use to be used to pass shoot ducks, geese, and swans, and in the 19th century they were popular with shooters hunting along the big flyways up and down the Eastern Seaboard. In the 20th century, they fell out of favor and were eventually outlawed by the Federal Government for use on all migratory species. Today, some states allow you to use on other game species (like turkeys), while others have completely outlawed their use for hunting. Oh well.

Of all the major American makers, Parker made the most 8s – around 246 in all.  According to the book The Parker Story, the first one was #4360, a D-grade underlever made in 1870s, and the last one was #174065, a DH made around 1916 with 36″ barrels. Lefever made some 8s, too, and so did L.C. Smith, but in small numbers – Lefever may have turned out 40 or so (including this nice E grade) and L.C. Smith made around 35 (including this one).

8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun: Ser. No. 152883. 36″ Twist barrels on a No. 6 frame. Bores are mint- lots of finish- wt.- 13 lbs. 10 ozs. A great hard to find Parker in this condition.

8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun
8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun
8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun
8 gauge Parker PH Side-by-Side shotgun

Wow – a modern 8 gauge side by side…

Modern 8 gauge side by side, Made in Italy, 39" bbls
Modern 8 gauge side by side, Made in Italy, 39″ bbls

Here’s a side-by-side shotgun that won’t be around for long: an Italian 8 Gauge SxS, Made in 1962.

In 1918, the US Federal Government made it illegal for anyone to use an eight gauge shotgun to hunt waterfowl and other federally-listed migratory game birds. Later, many states restricted hunting shotguns to 10 gauge and smaller.

Modern 8 gauge side by side, Made in Italy, 39" bbls
Modern 8 gauge side by side, Made in Italy, 39″ bbls

Of course, these laws didn’t apply in Europe, and it’s still legal in many areas there to hunt ducks, geese, and other waterfowl with the really big bores.

This 8-gauge shotgun was made for that kind of shooting. Judging by the looks of it, it looks like wasn’t used much at all. Here are the specs on it:

Price: $1,999.99
Manufacturer: 1962
Caliber: 8 Gauge.
Chambers: Side X Side.

Modern 8 gauge side by side, Made in Italy, 39" bbls
Modern 8 gauge side by side, Made in Italy, 39″ bbls

Metal Condition: Strong blue and case color.
Wood Condition: Excellent with crazing and flaking in the finish.
Bore Condition: Bright and shiny.
Barrels: 39+” Blue Acier steel.
Triggers: Double.
Stock: Mid grade walnut with a checkered pistol grip.
Fore End: Semi splinter checkered walnut.
Butt Pad: Red rubber vent butt pad.
Weight: 13 Lbs 12 Oz.

Dang – I want this shotgun: an 8 gauge W. & C. Scott Excellentia…

I have a weakness for the impractical, especially impractical old shotguns. That’s why I love this 8 gauge W. & C. Scott Excellentia.

Considering that 8 gauge ammo is almost impossible to find, and that hunting with an 8 gauge shotguns is illegal in most states, I think this side-by-side is as far from sensible as a double barrel can be. Maybe that’s why I keep wishing I had bought it. Pic courtesy of Lewis Drake & Associates.

8 gauge W. & C. Scott Excellentia Double Barrel Shotgun
8 gauge W. & C. Scott Excellentia Double Barrel Shotgun

 

Vintage Double of the Week: a W. & C. Scott 8 gauge…

As the 19th century ended, the shooting world was winding up 100 years of change. In 1800, muzzle loading flintlocks had ruled the field. Then in 1839, percussion guns took over, followed by breech loaders and then centerfire hammerguns. By 1885, these hammerguns were out and self-cocking, hammerless doubles were in.

8 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun
8 gauge W. & C. Scott double barrel shotgun

While the new hammerless guns had their benefits, hammerguns had two advantages that were tough to beat. First, exposed hammers make it easy to see if a gun is cocked and ready to fire. Second, cocked hammers can be dropped, decocking the gun and returning it to a “safe” state.

So some people raised on hammerguns must have looked at the new, “hammerless” models with suspicion. To overcome their apprehensions, some makers added cocked indicators to their hammerless guns. A few makers even came up with ways to uncock there guns. But, W. & C. Scott may be the only maker to ever come up with a way to do it all, and you can see their solution in this gun. This is the gun and it’s an 8 gauge that Scott called THE COMBINATION. Lewis Drake had this gun a while ago. Like a lot of his stuff, this gun looks like it was in very original condition.

 

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