Auction alert: Real nice 12g W & C Scott hammer shotgun …

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

Back in the ’90s, most hammer guns were curiosities few people were interested in. But thanks to magazines like The Doublegun Journal and organizations like The Vintagers, these old SxSs became the must-have doubles everyone wanted. Old ones that wouldn’t have brought $500 in 1995 were selling for $2,500 by 2005.

As a result, gun dealers grabbed every hammer gun they could find, slapped a high price on it, and made money. So today harder than ever to find nice, original hammer guns at decent prices. That being said, the W & C Scott sidelock SxS hammergun you see here appears to just that – nice, original and, because it’s a no-reserve auction, fairly priced.

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

When this gun was made, W & C Scott’s best-quality gun was The Premier Gun. This isn’t a Premier. Instead, it’s a high-quality, hand built, medium-grade gun. It’s on Gunbroker.com now and the listing ends on 8/30/2018 @ 9:31 PM, EST.

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

Beautiful W&C Scott Sidelock Double that was was manufactured at the Birmingham works in 1878 for retail through Scott’s London storefront. A bespoke piece with features, dimensions and appointments tailored to order, the gun features 30″, twin-beaded, browned Damascus barrels joined by a solid rib, manual extractor, wonderfully figured English Walnut pistol grip stock capped with a checkered buttplate of horn, and embellishment in the form of 70% engraving coverage. Brilliantly performed by one of the era’s finest artists, the engraving consists of classic, English vine-and-scroll highlighted by a Spaniel and Setter on either flank, each dog chasing an egret and a pheasant, respectively. The engraving extends to both the barrel and bolsters, while the blued trigger guard is adorned with a matching game bird. Wonderfully finished and in a remarkable state of preservation, the gun has seen no restoration, refinish or refreshing, with unfaded engraving, vivid Damascus star patterns on the barrel, while the receiver is awash in original case color. A wonderful find for the discriminating enthusiast, this Scott undoubtedly saw regular use followed by intervals of maintenance, likely by the original maker. Appearing ready for the field for decades to come, the gun locks up tightly, exhibits

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

bits superior balance and both bores are pristine. A true classic from a British icon, this all-original early W&C Scott Sidelock would be an outstanding addition to any advanced collection.

 

Condition

Very fine, the gun has seen no refinish, and retains better than 70% naturally softening case color on the frame and hammers, with the areas of selected bluing displaying almost no finish loss apart from subtle fading. The barrels have largely turned to a brown-tinged steel patina with 70% Damascus pattern. There is light oxidation along the outside of the barrels with rubbing around the muzzle-no rust or pitting is present on any metal surface. The markings are correct, with matching numbers on all components and no fading of the engraving. No import or export mark is present and the gun has not been reproved. The furniture shows light, consistent wear to the checkering and no cracks, chips, sanding or refreshing. Mechanically excellent, both bores are on the face, lockup is tight and the action is impressive. The bores are outstanding-clean and bright with no rust, pitting or oxidation.

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

See how they prove inside the Birmingham Proof House…

On the face? Birmingham Proof House series, Matthew Brown Photography
On the face? Birmingham Proof House series, Matthew Brown Photography

If you spend any time looking at old English and European guns, “proof” is something you’ll hear about.

In Great Britain and throughout the continent, state-recognized “proof houses” test every new firearm built in, or imported into, that country. Basically, they do this by trying to blow the gun up. If it survives. this process “proves” the shotgun, pistol, or rifle is safe to shoot.

The UK has two proof house: The London Proof House, founded in 1637, and the Birmingham Proof House, founded in 1813. Both are still proofing guns today.

With this series of pics, photographer Matthew Brown takes viewers into the inner workings of the Birmingham house and give us a rare look at one goes on throughout the proofing process.

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PIOTTI KING ROYAL SXS 16 GAUGE
PIOTTI KING ROYAL SXS 16 GAUGE

PIOTTI KING ROYAL SXS 16 GAUGE: MADE 1999 28″ 010 AND 018 2 3/4 DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP CASED EXCELLENT CONDITION 6LBS 8 OZ X 2″ X 1 7/16″ X 15″ Price: $29,500

J. Purdey & Sons .303 Sidelock Side-by-Side Double Rifle: Beautifully made J. Purdey & Sons .303 sidelock non ejector double rifle. 25 1/2″ barrels with a ramp foresight, one fixed 100 yard express sight and one folding leaf regulated at 200 yards. The barrels feature an extended third bite and a scope rail has been fitted to the rib. The bolstered, non ejector sidelock action is engraved with classic rose and scroll with some original colour, has two triggers, bolt safe, underlever opening and clipped fences. A nicely figured stock which has been refinished has a pistol grip with cap, cheek piece, chequered butt, sling swivel and silver oval. A very attractive Purdey in very good condition. Stock: Pistol Grip. LOP: 14″. Weight: 9lbs 1.6oz Price: $22,500

J. Purdey & Sons .303 Sidelock Side-by-Side Double Rifle
J. Purdey & Sons .303 Sidelock Side-by-Side Double Rifle
AyA Model No.53 Sidelock SxS in 20 Gauge
AyA Model No.53 Sidelock SxS in 20 Gauge

AyA Model No.53 Sidelock SxS in 20 GaugeThis No.53 features 27″ barrels with I.C. & Mod. (.011 & .019) chokes and a concave, tapered rib with a silver bead front sight, 2 3/4″ chambers, ejectors, double triggers with articulating front (hinged), engraved and extended trigger-guard, manual thumb actuated safety and gold-lined cocking indicators. For strength and safety there is the Purdey type triple-bite with side-clips and gas venting action and includes the two bite chopper lump steel barrels and a concealed third bite, released by top lever. And for beauty, the No.53, is fully engraved in a traditional European ribbon and floral pattern, and includes beautiful high grade walnut stocks, a straight-hand-grip and wrap-around extended checkered butt-stock with a leather covered red/orange recoil pad, and a checkered splinter forend with engraved iron and a push button release. Stock dimensions: LOP: 15 3/8″ to recoil pad, or 14 1/8″ to wood; DAC: 1 5/16″; DAH: 1 3/4″ & Cast Off: 3/16″. Weighs: 6 1/2 Lbs. All in very good to excellent condition. The barrel blue is near new with full coverage, a little lighting up of the blue on the exention of the trigger-guard, and the coin finished sidelock action is very bright and shiny with eye-popping engraving! The beautiful grained stocks and glossy lacquer finish shows some occasional light wear, a few wood scratches and smudges in the lacquer finish. There is tiny chipping of the butt-stock’s bottom fingers where they meet the action. Also includes a traditional oak hard-case fitted with with leather and canvas covers and red cloth interior, and inside are chrome snap caps and a chrome oiler, a bottle of Lightwood & Son neverust oil and a two piece wooden cleaning rod with brass jag and brush. Included in the ad are a total of 12 photographs, and all can be seen on Cabela’s Gun Library. Price: $3828.88 

Celta Borchers - Guernica, Spain - Sidelock Ejector - 28ga - Perfect Quail Gun - Long LOPCelta Borchers - Guernica, Spain - Sidelock Ejector - 28ga - Perfect Quail Gun - Long LOP
Celta Borchers – Guernica, Spain – Sidelock Ejector – 28ga – Perfect Quail Gun – Long LOP

Celta Borchers – Guernica, Spain – Sidelock Ejector – 28ga – Perfect Quail Gun – Long LOP1966 25-1/4″, IC / M (.005 / .010) Hand Engraved, Raised Rib, Rib Extension Third Bite, Hand Detachable Locks, Bushed Strikers, Automatic Safety, Double Triggers (Front Articulated), English Stock, LOP 15″ to Original Checkered Butt, Drop 1-1/2″ to 2-1/4″, Weight 5 lbs. 12 oz. Excellent Condition. Tight. Barrels Ring Nicely. Price: $2975

Jas. R. Watson – Nice English BLNE SxS – Great Handling Classic: 12ga, 2-1/2″, 28″ CYL / M (.000 / .020), Extractors, Double Triggers, English Stock, LOP 14-3/8″, Drop 1-1/2″ to 2″,  Weight 6 lbs. – 7 oz. Excellent original condition. Barrels measure to original specifications. Jas. R. Watson & Co. was in business from 1876 to 1976. This gun probably made between 1920 and 1939. Price: $1975

Jas. R. Watson - Nice English BLNE SxS - Great Handling Classic
Jas. R. Watson – Nice English BLNE SxS – Great Handling Classic

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PARKER DHE 20 GAUGE SxS
PARKER DHE 20 GAUGE SxS

PARKER DHE 20 GAUGE SxSO FRAME, #235XXX, 30″ MODIFIED AND FULL 2 3/4, SINGLE SELECT TRIGGER, EJECTORS, SPLINTER FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP WITH SKELETON BUTT. EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION. THE BEST TO COME TO MARKET IN SOME TIME. 6LBS 14OZ X 2 1/4″ X 1 1/2″ X 14″. Price: $22,500

PERAZZI DHO SIDELOCK SXS  – TWO BARREL SET – LUSSO GRADEHere is a Perazzi DHO 12 GAUGE – hand made by Daniel Perazzi. This gun was made in 1963 in period where Perazzi and Fabbri were making guns together and has been referred to as a Perazzi/Fabbri. Most of the production of this Perazzi/Fabbri partnership was OU guns, a bar action sidelock SXS would be fairly rare for this tiime period. This is a Lusso grade with ornate deep engraving featuring vines, ribbons and leaves.

PERAZZI DHO SIDELOCK SXS  - TWO BARREL SET - LUSSO GRADE
PERAZZI DHO SIDELOCK SXS  – TWO BARREL SET – LUSSO GRADE

Two barrel set with original 27 1/2″ chopper lump barrels choked IC and Full. Right barrel measures .730 with 16/1000 choke while the left is .733 with 42/1000 choke. A second set of 29 1/2″ chopper lump barrels was added in 2002 by Armi R. Luterotti. These barrels have the exact same engraving pattern at the standing breech area and same hand filing of the rib. The weight of these barrels is stamped 1.420. The barrels are choked Improved Mod and Full. The right barrel measures .727 with 26/1000 choke, while the left is also .727 with 40/1000 choke. All barrels are 2 3/4″ chambers. The weight of the gun with the 27 1/2″ barrels is 7LBS 2 5/8 OZ. The weight with the 29 1/2″ barrel is 7 LBS 7 OZ.  Single non-selective trigger Negrini case as shown Stock dimensions: LOP – 14 9/16″ Drop at Comb – 1 3/8″ Drop at Heel – 2 1/8″. Cast Off. Price: $18,500

W W Greener FH25 20 Bore SxS Shotgun
W W Greener FH25 20 Bore SxS Shotgun

W W Greener FH25 20 Bore SxS ShotgunDelightful lightweight gun.  Definitely a pleasure to carry all day.  Ready for the fall opener! Price $3950
Barrels: 26″ with 2 1/2″ Chambers
Chokes: Mod & IM
Engraving: Fine English Scroll
Action: Greener BLE
Stock: English Walnut
Butt: Checkered
Weight: 5 lbs. 2.8 oz.
Stock Dimensions: 1 3/8 x 2 5/8 x 14 5/8 with neutral cast

BERETTA SILVERHAWK 12GA MAGNUM SIDE-BY-SIDE 32" EXCELLENT
BERETTA SILVERHAWK 12GA MAGNUM SIDE-BY-SIDE 32″ EXCELLENT

BERETTA SILVERHAWK 12GA MAGNUM SIDE-BY-SIDE 32″ EXCELLENT: A hard to find 32 in magnum 12ga with even harder to find condition. Hidden Greener crossbolt. Articulating trigger. No issues! Good to go! You would have a hard time finding a nicer one. Price: $1750 
Chambers: 3 IN
Condition: EXCELLENT
Metal Condition: EXCELLENT
Wood Condition: EXCELLENT
Bore Condition: EXCELLENT
Barrels: 32″
Triggers: ARTICULATING FRONT
Gauge: 12
Stock Comb: 1 1/2IN
Stock Heel: 2 3/8 IN
LOP: 141/2
Weight: 7LBS 12OZ
Manufacture Date: 1965
Choke Left: EX FULL
Choke Right: FULL

Ithaca SKB 20ga. SxS Model 280 "English"
Ithaca SKB 20ga. SxS Model 280 “English”

Ithaca SKB 20ga. SxS Model 280 “English”Built by SKB for Ithaca in the 1970s,this gun has 28″ barrels choked modified (.012″) and full (.028″).The bores are mint with no rust,dents,or pits.It has a straight grip stock,a single selective trigger,ejectors,and a slim beavertail forend. The gun is in excellent all original condition retaining 98% of the original blue and wood finish.The stock dimensions are 141/4″LOP, 1 1/2″ at comb, and 2 1/2″ at heel.This is a great handling gun that would make a fine dove,pheasant,or clays gun.The model 280 was only built for a short time so they are relatively scarce.  Price: $1695 

Talking about British shotguns on Clays & Birds…

Andrew Shatz over at Claysandbirds.com had me back again to talk about shotguns. This time, we focused on British doubles. We had a great time. Check out what I had to say. The interview starts about 12 minutes in.

Auction alert: 28g Ruger Red Label, 28″ bbls, No Reserve….

Ruger Red Label 28g, 28" bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997
Ruger Red Label 28g, 28″ bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997

Here’s another one of these awesome OUs. These doubles are magic wands in the grouse woods. Most of the ones I see have pretty poor wood — but not this one. The 28″ barrels and straight grip are also hard to find.

This over-under is on Gunbroker.com now with No Reserve. The listing ends 7/24/2016 @ 9:18 PM.

Ruger Red Label 28g, 28″ bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997: This is an early gRed Label in a hard to find configuration. It comes with an english stock, 28″ barrels, 2 1/2″ drop and a 14 1/4″ LOP. Gun is about as nice as it gets. It comes with a very nice leather case with accessories and wooden cleaning rod as seen. Comes with 5 choke tubes.

Ruger Red Label 28g, 28" bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997
Ruger Red Label 28g, 28″ bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997
Ruger Red Label 28g, 28" bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997
Ruger Red Label 28g, 28″ bbls, Straigh English Grip, 1997

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JOHN RIGBY BEST PRE WAR SXS DOUBLE RIFLE 22 HI POWER
JOHN RIGBY BEST PRE WAR SXS DOUBLE RIFLE 22 HI POWER

JOHN RIGBY BEST PRE WAR SXS DOUBLE RIFLE 22 HI POWERSIDELOCK EJECTOR 24″ BARRELS WITH 1/4 RIB ONE STANDING SIGHT GREAT BORES DOUBLE TRIGGER PISTOL GRIP SPLINTER FOREARM EXCELLENT PLUS CONDITION MAKERS CASE WITH ACCESORIES 7LB 6 OZ X 14 7/8″. Price: $69,500

HOFFMAN ARMS CO. SIDE-BY-SIDE DOUBLE RIFLE
HOFFMAN ARMS CO. SIDE-BY-SIDE DOUBLE RIFLE

HOFFMAN ARMS CO. SIDE-BY-SIDE DOUBLE RIFLE10.75x68mm Mauser caliber (similar to .404 Jeffery).   26″ barrels with automatic ejectors and raised quarter rib with four leaf folding express sights.  The frame and barrels were supplied by Sempert & Krieghoff in 1929 to the Hoffman Arms Co.   It was stocked,  and finished by Seymour Griffin formerly of Griffin & Howe.  The receiver although unsigned appears to be beautifully engraved by Rudolph Kornbraith and has  “HOFFMAN ARMS CO”  in a banner on each side.  Checkered forend and pistol grip buttstock with engraved grip cap and ending with a hard rubber pad.  Condition is very high retaining considerable barrel blue, excellent casehardened finish on the receiver and triggerguard.  Super wood and checkering.  Beautiful mint bores.  Weight: 9lbs 6oz.  LOP: 14 1/8″   Comb: 1 1/2″  Heel: 2 1/4″.   This rifle is very accurate and with the proper load and  bullet will handle most anything. Price: $24,950

BERETTA - RARE - ASE - 20ga - 26" - Vent Rib - Single Trigger - Prince of Whales - 1959 Hand Built Quality
BERETTA – RARE – ASE – 20ga – 26″ – Vent Rib – Single Trigger – Prince of Whales – 1959 Hand Built Quality

BERETTA – RARE – ASE – 20ga – 26″ – Vent Rib – Single Trigger – Prince of Whales – 1959 Hand Built Quality: IC / IM (.009 / .020), Tapered Field Style Vent Rib, Ejectors, Single Trigger, Prince of Whales Round Knob Grip, LOP 14-3/8″, Drop 1-1/4″ to 2-1/8″, Cast Off for the Right Hand, Weight 5 lbs. 8 oz. Appears to be all original and overall Excellent Condition. Clearly hasn’t been used hard. Price: $5,150

  • Barrels – about perfect condition.
  • Bores – as new and measure exactly as they left the factory in 1959.
  • Forearm – excellent plus.
  • Receiver and Trigger Guard – excellent plus.
  • Butt Stock – original, but some finish issues. No cracks or repairs. New laquer fixes any problems with the Butt Stock. The butt plate has shrunk. I’ve seen this on Beretta shotguns from this era before.
WILLIAM R. PAPE ISLAND SIDELOCK 12GA HAMMERGUN
WILLIAM R. PAPE ISLAND SIDELOCK 12GA HAMMERGUN

WILLIAM R. PAPE ISLAND SIDELOCK 12GA HAMMERGUN: WITH RARE LEVER RELEASE, BEAUTIFUL TIGHT ENGLISH SCROLL ENGRAVING WITH TRACES OF CASE COLORS, 29″ FINE DAMASCUS BBLS WITH DOLLSHEAD, 2 3/4″ NITRO PROOF, 850 BAR, MIN WALLS, 28 THOU PLUS, CHOKED IC/FULL, STANDARD GAME RIB, EXTRACTORS, DBL TRIGGERS, HIGHLY FIGURED ENGLISH WALNUT WITH ENGRAVED TOE & HEEL PLATES, LOP 14 1/2, 1 3/8, 1 13/16, 6LBS 7OZ, BERY FINE ORIGINAL CONDITION, EXCELLENT BORE, TIGHT ON FACE!  Price: $4,295

CHARLES DALY MODEL 500 20GA SxS BY MIROKU
CHARLES DALY MODEL 500 20GA SxS BY MIROKU

CHARLES DALY MODEL 500 20GA SxS BY MIROKU: The nicest Model 500 I have seen. Very few minor imperfections in wood and metal. Close to new. 28in barrels have had the chokes opened to IC and MOD . Price: $1200
Manufacturer: Miroku
Model: Charles Daly Model 500
Bore: 20 GA
Chambers: 3IN
Condition: Close to New
Barrels: 28IN
Triggers: 2
Stock Comb: 1 1/2IN
Stock Heel: 2 9/16IN
LOP: 14 1/4
Weight: 6.6 lbs

 

 

Auction alert: Nice looking Webley & Scott 700 in 12 gauge…

Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun
Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun

If fine shotguns are addicting, this Webley & Scott Model 700 is their gateway drug. Well made, nice handling, and affordable, these Birmingham-built side-by-sides are the perfect way to get hooked on British doubles.

Webley & Scott built the M700 on an Anson & Deeley-style action, one of the most reliable  shotgun designs ever created, and they made the entire SxS to be as tough as Timex. When it comes to field guns, the M700 doubles can really take a licking and keep on ticking.

This Webley & Scott Model 700 is on Gunbroker.com now and the listing ends 5/31/2015 @ 12:09:13 PM ET.

Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun
Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun

Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun:

Model:  700
Barrel Length:  26 inch
Gauge:  12
Capacity:  2

For sale here is a Used Webley & Scott model 700 Side by Side double barrel shotgun! This shotgun is a beautiful work from Webley & Scott! Features include a wood stock and for-grip with a checkered grip and for-grip, case hardened receiver, boxlock, double triggers, 26 inch blued barrels, bead front sight, manual safety, minimal engraving, and a texturized lined butt. The engraved receiver is very pretty! The words Webley & Scott LTD are engraved in the top of the right barrel, and the word Birmingham is engraved in the left barrel. Serial number is 128474. The wood stock and for-grip are in near excellent shape! There are some minor marks on them, but no chips, dents, or major flaws. There is wear to the bluing on the barrels, some minor bright spots, and on the bottom of the barrels there are some darker blued spots and light spots. lockup is tight with the action. The gun is fully functional, but would make a beautiful gun for a collection, or to hang in a home as decoration.

Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun
Webley & Scott 12 gauge Model 700 SxS Shotgun

Good gun alert: 20g Parker DHE Repro, 26″ & 28″, double triggers…

Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set
Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set

Here’s a fair price on one of the hardest-to-find Parker Repros: a 20g DHE, 26″ & 28″ set, with a straight grip and double triggers.

In 1984, America’s most famous double-barrel shotguns was reborn as the Parker Reproduction by Winchester. Built in Japan until 1989, these side-by-sides were offered for sale until around 1997. Since then, they’ve gained a following and their prices have risen steadily.

Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set

Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set
Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set

Price: $5,999.99

Caliber:20 gauge

Chambers:3″ chambers

Metal Condition:Color cased-hardened receiver is excellent, barrel sets are excellent

Wood Condition:Wood is very good+

Bore Condition:Bore is excellent

Barrels:26″ barrel set; 28″ barrel set

Triggers:Double triggers

Stock:AA American walnut straight grip stock with fine cut two-panel checkering

Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set
Parker (Winchester Reproduction) Model DHE Two-Barrel Hunting Set

Stock Dimensions:13 3/8″ LOP to rear trigger, 14 3/8″ LOP to front trigger; 2 1/4″ DAH; 1 7/8″ DAC (center); 1 1/2″ DAC (front)

Fore End:Walnut splinter fore end with fancy fine cut single-panel checkering

Butt Pad:Niedner skeleton butt plate with fine cut checkered butt

Weight:6 pounds 10 ounces

Sights:Solid, concave, matted, tapered rib

Chokes:Fixed choke; 26″ improved cylinder, modified: 28″ modified, full

Auction alert: 16g Evans, Boswell, 20g Darne, 20g Scott, 12g AyA…

Macon Brother’s Auctions in Walla Walla, WA, has a handful of nice looking doubles coming up tomorrow. You can check all of them out here. These are the ones that caught my eye:

DARNE MODEL P17 SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN
DARNE MODEL P17 SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN

DARNE MODEL P17 20 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN: SN 4S545; 20GA; 2-3/4″ CHAMBERS; 25-3/4″ BARRELS; IMPROVED CYLINDER & LIGHT MODIFIED CHOKES; 15″ LOP; DROP TO COMB 1-5/8″; DROP TO HEEL 2-1/2″ TO STOCK & 2-5/8″ TO PAD; CAST OFF; ENGRAVED FRAME; CHECKERED STOCK & FORE END; SLIDING BREECH; RECOIL PAD; 5.85LBS TOTAL WEIGHT; SOFT CASE.

WILLIAM EVANS 16 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN: SN 5649; “WILLIAM EVANS FROM PURDEY’S, 65 PALL MALL, ST. JAME’S, LONDON”; 16GA; 2-3/4″ CHAMBERS; 28″ BARRELS; MODIFIED & FULL CHOKES; 14-5/8″ LOP; DROP TO COMB 1-1/2″; DROP TO HEEL 2-5/8″ TO STOCK & 2-3/4″ TO PAD; CAST OFF; ENGRAVED FRAME; CHECKERED STOCK & FORE END; RECOIL PAD; 6.05LBS TOTAL WEIGHT; WILLIAM EVANS HARD CARRY CASE.

WILLIAM EVANS 16 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN
WILLIAM EVANS 16 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN
WEBLEY & SCOTT 20 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN:
WEBLEY & SCOTT 20 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN

WEBLEY & SCOTT 20 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN: SN 129817; 20GA; 2-3/4″ CHAMBERS; SINGLE TRIGGER; 28″ BARRELS; MODIFIED & FULL CHOKE; 14-5/8″ LOP; DROP TO COMB 1-3/8″; DROP TO HEEL 2-5/8″; CAST OFF; ENGRAVED FRAME; CHECKERED STOCK & FORE END; CASE COLORED; SHELL EXTRACTORS; 5.65LBS TOTAL WEIGHT; SMALL RECOIL PAD.

AYA AGUIRRE-ARENZABAL 12 GAUGE MODEL 2 SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN: SN 437736; 12GA; 2-3/4″ CHAMBERS; 26″ BARRELS; IMPROVED & MODIFIED CHOKES; 14-9/16″ LOP; DROP TO COMB 1-9/16″; DROP TO HEEL 2-7/16″ TO STOCK & 2-1/2″ TO PAD; CAST OFF; ENGRAVED FRAME; CASE COLORED; CHECKERED STOCK & FORE END; 6.65LBS TOTAL WEIGHT; RECOIL PAD.

AYA AGUIRRE-ARENZABAL MODEL 2 12 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN
AYA AGUIRRE-ARENZABAL MODEL 2 12 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN
WEBLEY & SCOTT 12 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN
WEBLEY & SCOTT 12 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN

WEBLEY & SCOTT 12 GAUGE SIDE X SIDE SHOTGUN: SN 123521; 12GA; 2-1/2″ CHAMBERS; 28″ BARRELS; IMPROVED CYLINDER (SKEET) & IMPROVED CYLINDER MODIFIED CHOKES; 14-3/4″ LOP; DROP TO COMB 1-3/4″; DROP TO HEEL 2-3/4″ TO STOCK & 2-7/8″ TO PAD; CAST OFF; ENGRAVED FRAME; CASE COLORED; CHECKERED STOCK & FORE END; RECOIL PAD; 6.60LBS TOTAL WEIGHT; WEBLEY & SCOTT HARD CASE.

 

Auction alert: 12g Parker DHE Pigeon Gun, 34″, Straight stock…

Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun #143296
Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun #143296

Pigeon Gun…I’m always suspicious when I hear those words. Dealers love to them as a way to jack up the prices on any heavy twelve gauge shotgun, and a lot of time the words are misapplied to side-by-sides and O/Us that were really made as heavy game guns or even waterfowlers.

That being said, I’m 99% sure the Parker you see here is the real thing: A genuine American Pigeon shotgun. With 34″ barrels, a high, straight-grip stock, and no safety, it has all the features you would expect in a SxS custom made for the pigeon ring.

Wehrly’s Auction Service in Glen Rock, PA, has this shotgun and the auction begins on September 21, 2013, 8:30 AM EST.

Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun #143296
Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun #143296

Here’s the minimal description from the seller:

Lot 15A: Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun  #143296: Description: checkered wooden stock, double triggers, etched,Titanic steel, DBL, #’s match, 34″ barrel this gun has ejectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun #143296
Parker Bros. DHE DBL 12 Ga. Hammerless Pigeon Gun #143296

Gundogs: is a spaniel or lab from the UK really any better?

English Springer Spaniel
English Springer Spaniel

For some folks, British is always better – from shotguns to gundogs. While I’m a nut for British doubles, I’ve always had my doubts about spaniels and labs imported from the UK. Like our language, the way we hunt differs just enough to make the transition from one side of the Atlantic to the other a bit bumpy.

In this post from Sporting Classic, trainer Todd Agnew points out some of these bumps and explains why you may be better off American-bred dogs when you’re searching for your next hunting companion.

Expectations for a “British” Dog, by Todd Agnew of Craney Hill Kennel

“We all have expectations to different degrees, and at Craney Hill Kennel, they are extremely high for our dogs. The theory is that if we set our standards to an almost unattainable level, when we fall short, our dogs will still be very talented animals. It is hard to keep such a high standard when the public’s is so low that it becomes difficult to continually explain why you can or cannot do something.

Many people have a predisposed opinion of English dogs. This could be body structure, personality or training method. Regarding structure, I think it’s a mistake to think that an English dog looks like this or that. There may be certain tendencies, but the English dogs come in all shapes and sizes just like their American cousins. If you buy a puppy from England, you may get a 60-pound male with no legs or a 60-pound male with long legs. Or, you may get the same legs but the dog is 80 pounds!….

Read the entire piece here

Praising your pup: Is there a “best” way?

Steady with Style, from Martha Greenlee
Steady with Style, from Martha Greenlee

Praise isn’t something you can do wrong – or at least that’s what I thought. But one afternoon at Woodcock Haven Kennels, ace pointing dog trainer Al Ladd used a very personal demo to show me the right way to say “good boy”.

After I had whoed up my pointer on a planted pigeon and stroked her back up and down with praise, Al came up to me and did the same thing. Then he paused, put his hand on my arm, and calmy said “nice job.”

“See how one way gets you all worked up? And the other keeps you calm?”

I did.

In her piece Praise, Martha Greenlee points out the same thing and explains why calm praise is the better way to go.

Praise, from Martha Greenlee’s Steady with Style

“Praise is one type of reward you use to train a dog. Food treats, tossing a ball and an excited voice are examples of other types of rewards. Trainers who compete in dogs sports such as obedience, agility and tracking use a variety of rewards to let the dog know he did what the trainer asked. However, training a pointing dog is different. These dogs are bred with a strong desire to find birds, so finding birds is already a powerful reward, and it gets them excited.

The key to training a pointing dog is to give praise as a reward when your dog does what you asked. Unlike most rewards, praise can be given in ways that don’t increase your dog’s level of excitement. The calmer you can keep your dog around birds, the less pressure you will need to redirect his focus back to training….”

Read the entire piece here.

The week’s good guns, powered by Gunsinternational.com…

CSMC A.H. Fox FE special 20 gauge double barrel shotgun
CSMC A.H. Fox FE special 20 gauge double barrel shotgun

CSMC Fox FE Special 20g side-by-side double barrel shotgun: Spectacular A.H. Fox FE special, made by Connecticut Shotgun. Near new. 28″ bbl., 14 1/4″ lop (from back trigger), 3″ chambers, xtrfull/xtrfull, exhibition wood. Cased with all accessories. Outstanding deep relief engraving by master engraver Bryson Gwinell. Priced under what it would cost to reproduce, a chance for a real beauty at a DE price. Price: $23,000

Winchester Model 21 Grade 4 .410 Vent Rib: Lovely Winchester Model 21 Grade 4 engraved .410. 26″ bbls, 3″ chambers, f/f. Gun is 100% original. Overall excellent + condition, possibly unfired. Factory Vent Rib. Price: $21,500

Arrizabalaga 16 Gauge Self Opener SLE with 30” Barrels:
Arrizabalaga 16 Gauge Self Opener SLE with 30” Barrels:

Arrizabalaga 16 Gauge Self Opener SLE with 30” Barrels: Pedro Arrizabalaga is known as the king of Spanish gunmakers and this beautiful best grade16 gauge proves it. With Woodward-style engraving and arcaded fences this gun has the looks and the handling characteristics knowledgeable shooters demand. It is fully engraved with great case coloring. *** Manufactured in 1999 it has a self-opening action, double triggers, 30” barrels with 2-3/4” chambers, automatic ejectors, and a solid concave rib. The gun has bushed strikers and the front trigger is articulated. The chokes are Improved Cylinder and Modified. The bluing is 99%. *** Stocked in a very highly figured piece of Circassian walnut with dark chocolate swirls in a caramel colored background. It has a straight hand grip and splinter forearm. The checkering is sharp and carved out to around 28 lines per inch. The length of pull is 15-1/4” over a 1” leather pad. Great shooting dimensions of 1-3/8” X 2-1/16”. Weighs 6lb 10 oz. *** Comes cased in its original oak and leather brass-cornered case with maker’s label including mahogany cleaning rod and attachments, snap caps and oil bottle. All this fits snugly in a codura outer cover to protect the leather. Replacement cost is $26,950 plus $1,550 for the case. Price: $16,750

ARMY & NAVY 12 BORE Side-by-Side Double RIFLE- FULL RIFLED
ARMY & NAVY 12 BORE Side-by-Side Double RIFLE- FULL RIFLED

ARMY & NAVY 12 BORE RIFLE- FULL RIFLED- LONDON N. P. in 2009 to 2 3/4″- EXC COND INSIDE & OUT- 80% ORIG CASE COLORS- 80% ENGRAVING: #518, Made Expressly For “The Army & Navy Cooperative Society Limited” London: A super nice Bar Action Sidelock 12 Bore Rifle with Non-Rebounding locks, Jones Screw-Grip Action Underlever; 26″ damascus barrels, London Nitro Proof in 2009 to 70mm (2 3/4″) and 18.9mm on the right barrel and 18.8mm on the left, Full length rib with 1 standing & 4 folding express sights that are platinum lined & sighted at 150 – 200 – 250 & 300 yards, Percussion style fences, Wedge forend fastener, Steel engraved grip cap, No cheekpiece, Sling eyes, 14 1/2″ LOP over a full faced checkered horn buttplate, A deep 5 1/2″ butt from heel to toe ideal for a Big Bore, 10 lbs. 1 oz., Superb wood with excellent black/brown color & contrast, 80% coverage of very fine & well cut period scroll engraving including the hammers, top strap, lever, trigger guard, forend and grip cap. This classic vintage gun still retains an honest 80% original case colors, The wood absolutely appears with original finish and remains at 88-90%, The checkering is at 90%, The barrels were re-browned in London when nitro proved, The bores are absolute excellent to near excellent plus condition with square rifling the entire way and remain bright & shiny, The breech face retains 90% case colors and totally free of any pits at the strikers, The forend inside has 100% case colors, Both locks inside & out remain in excellent plus condition and have all the trappings of being built by gun lock maker John Stanton of Wolverhampton. The internal inletting looks as clean as the day it was cut and totally free of oil soak. The gun is quite accurate plus it will shoot off the shelf Winchester 1 ounce sabot slugs. This is flat out one good looking and extremely solid rifle in every respect from metal to wood with super bores. Here is first rate quality, style, grace, workmanship, handling and romance from a great period at the pinnacle of sporting guns in the last years of the 19th century. Price: $14,750.00

Ithaca SXS, double barrel shotgun in 28 gauge
Ithaca SXS, double barrel shotgun in 28 gauge

Ithaca SXS shotgun in 28 GA: Wonderful Ithaca  SXS shotgun in 28 GA with original 2 3/4″ chambers,  LOP 14″ to an Ithaca butt plate, Choked Cyl-Mod (.000 and .014) Krupp steel barrels measuring 26″, double triggers. This is an all original shotgun with all original finish. Barrels and stock finish near 100% and CC at 50%+. Price: $5700

Good gun alert: 12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U…

12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun
12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun

If I had to pick one double for all my bird hunting, it would this 12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx Over Under. With 28″ barrels, screw-in choke tubes, and double triggers, it could do it all from grouse in Maine to pheasants in the Dakotas.

12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun
12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun

Cole Gunsmithing in Harpswell, ME, has been turning out custom Beretta O/Us for a while now. If you went to them and ordered one like this today, it would probably run you $3,500- $4,000. That means this one is a pretty good deal at
$2,795.

12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun
12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun
12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun
12 gauge Beretta/ Cole Custom 686 Onyx O/U shotgun

 

On Gunbroker.com now: a nice Westley Richards droplock side-by-side…

12 gauge Westley Richards Droplock Double Barrel Shotgun
12 gauge Westley Richards Droplock Double Barrel Shotgun

In 1812, William Westley Richards founded the firm that bears his name today. In the firm’s 200 year history, they’ve invented everything from Monkey Tail Carbines and shotgun toplevers to solid drawn, brass rifle cartridges and the Anson & Deeley shotgun.

12 gauge Westley Richards Droplock Double Barrel Shotgun
12 gauge Westley Richards Droplock Double Barrel Shotgun

In 1897, Leslie B Taylor, Westley Richards’s Managing Director, created the company’s famous Detachable Lock Action. A few years later, the company made the shotgun you see here. This Westley Richards is a 12 gauge and it appears to be in excellent original condition.

BTW: if double triggers are more your style, check out this Westley.

12 gauge Westley Richards Droplock Double Barrel Shotgun
12 gauge Westley Richards Droplock Double Barrel Shotgun

Gone! Yesterday’s 20 gauge is already sold…

20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun

Wow – that was quick. This nice, original 20 gauge Charles Smith & Son side by side that I wrote about yesterday is already sold.

This double popped up on Gunsinternational.com on Thursday, am, and by the early afternoon it was sold. It had it all: ejectors, double triggers, 28″ barrels, a beautiful stock (14 1/2″LOP), and lots of original finish. Best of all, it was cheap: just $3599.

20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun
20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun

Good gun alert: this one won’t be on the market long…

20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun
20 gauge Charles Smith & Son Boxlock Ejector Double Barrel Shotgun

Nice, original 20 gauge British doubles are hard to find – especially boxlocks as nice as this Charles Smith & Son side by side.

With 28″ barrels, ejectors, a 14 1/2″ stock, lots of original finish, and a very fair price (just $3599), I bet it won’t be around for very long.

Guess this Greener’s secret…

W.W. Greener made a lot of beautiful side-by-side shotguns, including this little 16 gauge. But this double has a secret. Take a look and see if you can spot it.

W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun
W.W. Greener Double Barrel, Side-by-Side 16 gauge shotgun

The secret: sleeved barrels. See the seam in the pic above? That’s what give the sleeving job away. Sleeving isn’t a bad thing. Done right, it can revive an old double and give it another century of life. From the looks of things, I’m sure that’s the case with this Greener.

Style…

When it comes to bird dogs, different breeds hunt in different ways. This is especially true with Continental and English Pointers.

Last weekend when I was out with Bob I had a chance to see these differences in action. Check out these videos to see what a mean.

This is my English Pointer, Puck. Check out how high she holds her head. She’s also a bit rangier and more dynamic in the field.

This is Bob’s GSP Nelly. She’s an easy-handling, closer ranging bird dog. Check out how she holds her head lower and looks for scent closer to the ground. Her body tends to “rocking horse” a bit.

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