Auction alert: Real nice 12g W & C Scott hammer shotgun …

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

Back in the ’90s, most hammer guns were curiosities few people were interested in. But thanks to magazines like The Doublegun Journal and organizations like The Vintagers, these old SxSs became the must-have doubles everyone wanted. Old ones that wouldn’t have brought $500 in 1995 were selling for $2,500 by 2005.

As a result, gun dealers grabbed every hammer gun they could find, slapped a high price on it, and made money. So today harder than ever to find nice, original hammer guns at decent prices. That being said, the W & C Scott sidelock SxS hammergun you see here appears to just that – nice, original and, because it’s a no-reserve auction, fairly priced.

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

When this gun was made, W & C Scott’s best-quality gun was The Premier Gun. This isn’t a Premier. Instead, it’s a high-quality, hand built, medium-grade gun. It’s on Gunbroker.com now and the listing ends on 8/30/2018 @ 9:31 PM, EST.

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

Beautiful W&C Scott Sidelock Double that was was manufactured at the Birmingham works in 1878 for retail through Scott’s London storefront. A bespoke piece with features, dimensions and appointments tailored to order, the gun features 30″, twin-beaded, browned Damascus barrels joined by a solid rib, manual extractor, wonderfully figured English Walnut pistol grip stock capped with a checkered buttplate of horn, and embellishment in the form of 70% engraving coverage. Brilliantly performed by one of the era’s finest artists, the engraving consists of classic, English vine-and-scroll highlighted by a Spaniel and Setter on either flank, each dog chasing an egret and a pheasant, respectively. The engraving extends to both the barrel and bolsters, while the blued trigger guard is adorned with a matching game bird. Wonderfully finished and in a remarkable state of preservation, the gun has seen no restoration, refinish or refreshing, with unfaded engraving, vivid Damascus star patterns on the barrel, while the receiver is awash in original case color. A wonderful find for the discriminating enthusiast, this Scott undoubtedly saw regular use followed by intervals of maintenance, likely by the original maker. Appearing ready for the field for decades to come, the gun locks up tightly, exhibits

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

bits superior balance and both bores are pristine. A true classic from a British icon, this all-original early W&C Scott Sidelock would be an outstanding addition to any advanced collection.

 

Condition

Very fine, the gun has seen no refinish, and retains better than 70% naturally softening case color on the frame and hammers, with the areas of selected bluing displaying almost no finish loss apart from subtle fading. The barrels have largely turned to a brown-tinged steel patina with 70% Damascus pattern. There is light oxidation along the outside of the barrels with rubbing around the muzzle-no rust or pitting is present on any metal surface. The markings are correct, with matching numbers on all components and no fading of the engraving. No import or export mark is present and the gun has not been reproved. The furniture shows light, consistent wear to the checkering and no cracks, chips, sanding or refreshing. Mechanically excellent, both bores are on the face, lockup is tight and the action is impressive. The bores are outstanding-clean and bright with no rust, pitting or oxidation.

W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30" Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8" ; Cast: Noticeably Off
W&C Scott Best Sidelock Double; 1878 Birmingham Production/London Retailed; 12 Bore; 30″ Damascus Steel Barrels; Choked: Modified & Improved Cylinder; LOP: 14 1/8″ ; Cast: Noticeably Off

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James Purdey & Sons, London, 20 Gauge Sidelock Best Quality O/U Shotgun:
James Purdey & Sons, London, 20 Gauge Sidelock Best Quality O/U Shotgun:

James Purdey & Sons, London, 20 Gauge Sidelock Best Quality O/U ShotgunGun #26597. 28-inch Length of Barrel, 15-inch Length of Pull 1 7/16″ Drop at Comb, 2″ Drop at Heel. 6lbs 6oz. Manufacture’s case included Price: $69,500

BOSS & CO, LONDON, BEST SXS 20 GAUGE SIDELOCK SHOTGUN26 1/2″ BARRELS 006 AND 010 2 3/4 SINGLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP MAKERS CASE EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION 5LBS 4 OZ X 2 1 1/4″ x 1 1/2″  X 14″ LOP. Price: $59,500

BOSS & CO, LONDON, BEST SXS 20 GAUGE SIDELOCK SHOTGUN
BOSS & CO, LONDON, BEST SXS 20 GAUGE SIDELOCK SHOTGUN
SanGiorgio - Model Vega - High Quality Modern SxS Hammer Gun - Great for Clays
SanGiorgio – Model Vega – High-Quality Modern SxS Hammer Gun – Great for Clays

SanGiorgio – Model Vega – High Quality Modern SxS Hammer Gun – Great for Clays: 1987 – Ameria SanGiorgio – Gardone V.T. – Vega – Hammer Gun– 12ga, 28” M / F, Extractors, Hand Filed Rib, Double Triggers – Front Trigger Articulated, Hand Detachable Locks, LOP 15-1/4″ to Factory Pad, Drop 1-3/8″ to 2-3/8″, Slight Cast Off, Weight 7 lbs. 12 oz. Excellent Condition: Very Tight. Price: $4975 

Webley & Scott Ltd. ~ Side by Side ~ 12 Ga Side by Side Boxlock ShotgunThis Webley & Scott Ltd. 12 gauge shotgun S/N 1113XX was ordered and started October 12, 1926.  It is a boxlock with crossbolt – Pigeon Grade No.300 gun fitted with an Anson forend.  2 3/4 ‘ chambers.  30 inch fixed choke barrels with a flat rib.  This gun was first sold July 10, 1928.  It is in very good condition and a great addition to anyone who might collect side by side shotguns.  The preceding information was taken from a report presented by Gallyon & Sons Ltd. / U.K. dated July 31, 2008.  Price: $2,999.99 

Manufacturer: Made in England.

Webley & Scott Ltd. ~ Side by Side ~ 12 Ga Side by Side Boxlock Shotgun
Webley & Scott Ltd. ~ Side by Side ~ 12 Ga Side by Side Boxlock Shotgun

Caliber: 12 Ga.
Chambers: 2 3/4 inch.
Metal Condition: Very good with some minor surface handling marks. Trigger guard and bottom tang are discolored.
Wood Condition: Very good with light checkering wear and light handling marks.
Bore Condition: Both are very clean, bright and shiny.
Barrels: 30 inches with a solid knurled top rib.
Triggers: Double.
Stock: Diamond checkered grip walnut round knob. Case colored receiver is lightly engraved with border and a little scroll.
Stock Dimensions:
LOP 14 1/2 inches. DAC 1 7/16 inch DAH 2 1/16 inch
Fore End: Diamond checkered grip walnut splinter.
Butt Pad: Horizontal grooved black metal. Has some light scratch/use marks.
Weight: 7 lbs. 8 oz.
Sights: Brass bead front.
Chokes: Fixed chokes. Right barrel is Modified. Left barrel is Full.
Extras: Comes with a Webley & Scott Ltd. hard locking case. The case is lined with green felt and has a Webley & Scott Ltd. information sign, two metal snap caps, a two-piece wooden cleaning rod with 4 cleaning attachments, a metal oil bottle, and a box of Farlo’s

Ithaca ~ N.I.D. ~ 20 Ga. ~ SxS ~ Double Barrel Shotgun
Ithaca ~ N.I.D. ~ 20 Ga. ~ SxS ~ Double Barrel Shotgun

Ithaca ~ N.I.D. ~ 20 Ga. ~ SxS ~ Double Barrel ShotgunThis is an Ithaca side by side 20 gauge shotgun manufactured in 1927 based on serial number. There is a dent in the left barrel and has been deemed safe to fire from a gunsmith. This is a great not-so-rare Ithaca that would look great in any collection. Price: $599.99 

Manufacturer: 1927
Caliber: 20 Ga
Chambers: 2 3/4
Metal Condition: Great for its age
Wood Condition: Good – Shows its age
Bore Condition: Bright and Shiny
Barrels: 26
Triggers: Double Trigger
Stock: Walnut with Checkering on Pistol Grip
Stock Dimensions:
OAL 42″, LOP 13.5
Fore End: Walnut with Checkering to Match
Butt Pad: Plastic Plate
Weight: 6 lbs.
Sights: Front Bead

Hello! Check out this hot 12g hammergun…

Centerfire, breechloading hammerguns were popular from about 1867-1890. But once makers like Westley Richards, W& C Scott, and James Purdey & Sons introduced reliable, easy-to-use hammerless design, hammerguns were pushed out in the door.

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Parker Bros. 12 gauge AHE Side-by-Side shotgun 2 BBL SET: Price: $24,500 
Parker Bros. 12 gauge AHE Side-by-Side shotgun 2 BBL SET: Price: $24,500

Parker Bros. 12 gauge AHE Side-by-Side shotgun 2 BBL SETPrice: $24,500 
Serial Number: 95xxx
Ejectors: Yes
Barrels: 30″
Action: SE
Triggers: Double Trigger
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Fore End: Splinter
Butt Pad: Plate
LOP: 13 3/4″
Weight: 7 3/4 lbs.

BERETTA - SO2 - 27-1/2 Bbls - Double Triggers - Prince of Wales Grip
BERETTA – SO2 – 27-1/2 Bbls – Double Triggers – Prince of Wales Grip

BERETTA – SO2 – 27-1/2 Bbls – Double Triggers – Prince of Wales Grip: IC / LM (.007 / .012) Boehler Steel Bbls, Ejectors, Double Triggers, Prince of Wales Grip, LOP 14-1/2″ Drop 1-1/2″ to 2-7/16″, Weight 6 lbs. 15 oz. A wooden spacer and Beretta butt plate have been fitted to extend the stock. The stock has NOT been cut. Very nice work. The stock is 13-7/8″ without the extension. So, remove the extension and add a pad and the stock will go almost 15″ with a standard 1″ pad. Excellent Condition. The stocks have been refinished. The barrels are original finish. Price: $3475 

BERETTA 626 ONYX 12 GAUGE SIDE BY SIDE SHOTGUN: 28″ MOBILCHOKE BARRELS, SKEET & IMPROVED CYLINDER TUBES INCLUDED, 3″ CHAMBERS, SINGLE SELECTIVE TRIGGER, EJECTORS, BEAVERTAIL FOREND, PISTOL GRIP STOCK, 14 1/2″ LOP, 96% BLUE, STOCK SHOWS SOME MODERATE FIELD USE. PRICE: $1899

BERETTA 626 ONYX 12 GAUGE SIDE BY SIDE SHOTGUN 28" BBLS
BERETTA 626 ONYX 12 GAUGE SIDE BY SIDE SHOTGUN 28″ BBLS
JP SAUER HAMMER DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN - 12 GAUGE - ORIGINAL CONDITION - FLUID STEEL 30" BARRELS
JP SAUER HAMMER DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN – 12 GAUGE – ORIGINAL CONDITION – FLUID STEEL 30″ BARRELS

JP SAUER HAMMER DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN – 12 GAUGE – ORIGINAL CONDITION – FLUID STEEL 30″ BARRELSHere is a JP Sauer 12 hammer game gun stocked to the fences. Original unrestored condition. Fluid steel 30″ barrels . Traces of case color in protected areas. Made in Suhl, Germany. Good bores. Right barrel at .722 with 15/1000 choke (Mod). Left barrel at .728 with 33/1000 choke (Full). Both as original. Chambers are 2 3/4″. Sharp checkering. Double underbite with Greener Style Third Fastener. Tight on face. No cracks to wood. Shipping is $40. Weight of gun is 6 LBS 8 OZ. Stock dimensions: LOP – 14 1/8″, Drop at Comb – 1 5/8″, Drop at Heel – 2 1/2″. Price: $1,850

BROWNING CITORI SUPER LIGHT OVER UNDER 20GA LIKE NEW
BROWNING CITORI SUPER LIGHT OVER UNDER 20GA LIKE NEW

BROWNING CITORI SUPER LIGHT OVER UNDER 20GA LIKE NEW: BARREL LENGTH 26″ CHOKE FIXED MODIFIED AND INPROVED CYLINDER, BORES LIKE NEW BLUE PERFECT. WOOD MINT EXCEPT ON SMALL MARK ON FOREND TIP. SHOWS LITTLE IF ANY USE. MANUFACTURE DATE 1983.  WEIGHT 6LBS 3 OZ. Price: $1,395

Auction alert: Great looking 12 gauge Francotte hammergun…

Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun
Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun

I used to have an itch for hammerguns, and over the years I scratched it by buying a bunch of them. The breechloading hammergun period lasted around twenty years — about 1865 to 1885 — so most of the hammerguns I picked up were real old.

But every now and then I would come across something special like the 12 gauge Francotte hammergun you see here. This hammergun is from the 20th century. Hammerguns were well out of fashion then, so whoever ordered this one wanted something special. Judging by how nice it is, they were willing to spend a lot of money to get just what they wanted.

It’s on Gunbroker.com now and the listing ends Sunday, 5/21/2017, @ 10:00 PM.

Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” SxS hammer gun: 12 gauge with 30″ Chopper Lump steel barrels & 2 3/4″ chambers. Ribs are tight.Up for auction is a hard to come by Francotte Nitro proof hammer gun. This is a top notch pre-war VL&D import gun with all of the marquee features of a true“Best gun”: Chopper Lump barrels, hidden Greener-type 3’rd fastener, double Purdey under bites, side clips, removable hinge pin, rebounding hammers, matted concave rib, articulated front trigger and nice partial coverage foliate scroll. Was restocked (fore end appears original to gun) way back when to a straight grip with a nice piece of French walnut & modern stock dimensions: 14 ¼” over original horn butt plate, 1 5/8” x 1 7/8” at heel. Excellent, un-touched “Chopper lump” 30 inch Bores @ .727 diameter per side with optimal Vintage “clays” chokes @ R .014. L. .022. Min walls .037. Weighs in right at 7 lbs. even. These are seldom seen, much less with all of these features. Hard to find a classier, well made Hammer gun than this Francotte built during their hey-day.

Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun
Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun
Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun
Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun
Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun
Rare Francotte Pre-war “Best Quality” 12 gauge SxS hammer gun

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Browning Lebeau-Courally 12 gauge SxS Double Barrel Sidelock Shotgun
Browning Lebeau-Courally 12 gauge SxS Double Barrel Sidelock Shotgun

Browning Lebeau-Courally 12 gauge SxS Double Barrel Sidelock Shotgun: 28″ barrels choked IC/M. Ejectors and manual safety. Double triggers. 2 3/4″ chambers. Unfired. Never been anywhere but its case or in a safe. Pristine condition. Rare and spectacular. Price: $10,999

Armeria San Giorgio 12 Gauge Italian SXS Hammer Gun: Built in 1976. 28″ M/F Bohler Steel barrels with raised matted rib and silver front bead. Bores as new measuring .725 right and left. Choked .022 right and .035 left. Silver reciever with 40% coverage of well cut scroll engraving with a pheasant on the floorplate by Imario and signed. Exquisitely detailed rebounding hammers. Double triggers with the front articulated. Pierced top lever. Four locking screws on key screws. Stocked in an extremely nice piece of Circasian Walnut with excellent color and contrast. 32 LPI checkering. The inletting is superb. 14 3/4″ LOP to a checkered wood buttplate.  DAC-1 1/2″   DAH-2 5/8″   Cast off 3/8″    7lb 7oz

Armeria San Giorgio 12 Gauge Italian SXS Hammer Gun
Armeria San Giorgio 12 Gauge Italian SXS Hammer Gun

This is a very high quality piece. San Giorgio was a small boutique father/son maker in the Val Trompia region of Italy obviously capable of very high quality work. This piece remains in almost new condition with a few stock handling marks. It appears to have been fired very little if at all. Lever remains well right of center. Barrels ring with a pure chime. It comes to the shoulder with ease. It exhibits the style, grace, and elegance that fine gunmaking is all about. Price: $5400

CSMC- RBL RESERVE 16ga. Side-by-Side Double Barrel Boxlock Shotgun 29″ barrels: Fixed chokes IC/M, 4X American black walnut straight grip stock, splinter forend, double triggers, automatic ejectors, solid game rib, 15” LOP to a ¾” factory recoil pad, dogs on point surrounded full coverage scroll engraving over magnificent case coloring, a perfect 6lbs. 12oz. weight, Base price-$3795.00, options include:, 4X wood. Price: $4,445

CSMC- RBL RESERVE 16ga. Side-by-Side Double Barrel Boxlock Shotgun 29" barrels
CSMC- RBL RESERVE 16ga. Side-by-Side Double Barrel Boxlock Shotgun 29″ barrels
AH Fox A Grade 20Ga SxS Shotgun 28" M/F #4 weight barrels
AH Fox A Grade 20Ga SxS Shotgun 28″ M/F #4 weight barrels

AH Fox A Grade 20Ga SxS Shotgun 28″ M/F #4 weight barrels14 1/4″ LOP to factory buttplate. Very nice overall condition with 30% CC’s and excellent blue. may have an added coat of oil and has a small chip missing from right side of forearm. Nice field gun that wieghs in at 5 1/2 lbs. Price: $3950

BERNARDELLI 28GA SXS BOXLOCK SHOTGUN, 27″ BARRELSUP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS A BERNARDELLI 28 GAUGE SXS BOX LOCK SHOTGUN THAT WAS IMPORTED FROM ITALY FOR LL BEAN. THE GUN RETAINS MOST ALL OF THE CASE COLOR, BARREL BLUE, AND WOOD FINISH. THIS SHOTGUN CAME WITH 27 INCH BARRELS. THIS WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT UPLAND BIRD GUN. Price: $1,475

BERNARDELLI 28GA SXS BOXLOCK SHOTGUN, 27" BARRELS
BERNARDELLI 28GA SXS BOXLOCK SHOTGUN, 27″ BARRELS

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LANCASTER 280 FLANGED- NEVER HUNTED & APPEARS UNFIRED- PRE-WAR PIECE FINISHED in 1946- SIDELOCK with 26" CHOPPER LUMP Bbls.- 1946 NEW
LANCASTER 280 FLANGED- NEVER HUNTED & APPEARS UNFIRED- PRE-WAR PIECE FINISHED in 1946- SIDELOCK with 26″ CHOPPER LUMP Bbls.- 1946 NEW

LANCASTER 280 FLANGED- NEVER HUNTED & APPEARS UNFIRED- PRE-WAR PIECE FINISHED in 1946- SIDELOCK with 26″ CHOPPER LUMP Bbls.- 1946 NEW: #18803, Charles Lancaster Sidelock 280 Flanged That Never Went Hunting & Appears Unfired, Pre-War piece that was finished in 1946, WWII altered the intended use of many Sporting Firearms and I believe this gun is one of those as it remains to this day like a new rifle. The address is 7 Bury Street, St. James’s, London: A Bar Action Sidelock with 26″ Extractor Chopper Lump barrels with A Dolls Head rib extension plus a third bite, 1/4 rib with 1 standing & 2 folding rear sights, London Nitro Proved, Regulated with 140 grain bullets, Bushed strikers, Double triggers, Lever forend release, 14 13/16″ LOP over a checkered butt, 9 lbs. 14 oz., 95% coverage of period scroll engraving that is very well cut, 99% original case colors that remain bright & vivid, 99% original barrel black with near perfect striking on the barrels, The original stock finish remains at 98% with a few gun cabinet marks, The checkering is at 100%, The inside of the forend has 100% case colors, The breech face has 100% case colors, The bores are new.
Price: $35,500

Perazzi MX 20 Over/Under Shotgun
Perazzi MX 20 Over/Under Shotgun

Perazzi MX 20 Over/Under ShotgunNew-in-box 20 gauge Perazzi MX20 Over/Under shotgun with fixed chokes. Shotgun comes complete with a Perazzi hard case. Wood is lighter colored with a prince of wales stock and light Perazzi engraving and blued receiver and barrels. Choke constriction is Top: .028, Bottom: .020. Price: $8,999.99

Arrieta 801 20 Gauge Side-by-Side NEAR NEW, 28", MANY OPTIONS, UPGRADED WOOD, SELF OPENER: Price: $7,950.00
Arrieta 801 20 Gauge Side-by-Side NEAR NEW, 28″, MANY OPTIONS, UPGRADED WOOD, SELF OPENER: Price: $7,950.00

Arrieta 801 20 Gauge Side-by-Side NEAR NEW, 28″, MANY OPTIONS, UPGRADED WOOD, SELF OPENER: Price: $7,950.00
Barrel Length: 28″
Chokes: .002/.005  CYL/IC factory
Bores: perfect
Bore Diameter: .621/.622
Wall Thickness: .026/.027
% Blue: 99% factory
Chambers: 2 3/4″
Ribs: tight, hand cut filed
Sights: single
Action: tight, right of center
Ejectors or Extractors: ejectors, strong, timed
Case Color: 99% factory
Screws: perfect
Engraving: clear, sharp fine English scroll
Trigger Type: double, crisp
Trigger Guard Color: 99% factory
Type: figured French, English stock/splinter forend
LOP: 14 11/16″
LOP To End Of Wood: 14 1/4″
DAH: 2 1/2″
DAC: 1 7/16″
Cast: 3/16″ off
Checkering Condition: perfect
Butt Treatment: sporting clays black

MAINWARING - SIDELOCK W/EJECTORS, 16 ga
MAINWARING – SIDELOCK W/EJECTORS, 16 ga

MAINWARING – SIDELOCK W/EJECTORS, 16 ga27 1/2″ BLS. M/IM, DOUBLE TRIGGERS, 100% COVERAGE IN SCROLL ENGRAVING, STRAIGHT GRIP, BUSHED FIRING PINS, 14″ x 1 3/8″ x 2 1/16″ x 3/8″ OFF, WEIGHT 6 LBS. 2 OZS., CC 50%. FIRST RATE GUN.  Price: $6,500

W.W. Greener – Damascus SxS Hammergun – 12 ga: Price: $5,900

Ejectors: No
Trigger: Double

W.W. Greener - Damascus SxS Hammergun - 12 ga: Price: $5,900
W.W. Greener – Damascus SxS Hammergun – 12 ga: Price: $5,900

Grip: Rounded Pistol Grip
Forend: Checkered
Lop: 14 ”
Pad thickness: ”
Type of butt: Factory
Drop comb: 1 5/8 ”
Drop heel: 2 3/4 ”
Cast amount: 3/8 ”
Cast: Off
Weight: 7 lbs, 4 oz
Manufactured in: England
Manufacture Year: Finish: Case Colored
Overall condition: Very Good
Stock condition: Very Good
Metal condition: Very Good
Stock: Original finish
Metal: Original finish
Type of Case: none
Extra barrels: 0
Gauge: 12 ga
Chamber: 2 1/2 ”
Length: 30 ”
Chokes: Full
Rib type: Concave
Comments : Gun is in very good condition with some light handling marks.

Wow – what a Purdey hammergun. But $99,500?

Alfonso XIII of Spain, pigeon shooter & owner of many Purdeys
Alfonso XIII of Spain, pigeon shooter & owner of many Purdeys

Provenance is tricky, especially when it comes to old guns. Some provenances can boost a shotgun’s value many times over, while other barely register at all with buyers.

Fo example: Would you pay $60,000 more for a shotgun made for King Alfonso XIII.

King who?

Yeah – that’s the problem. King Alfonso XIII was Spain’s monarch from 1886-1931. While he was a big deal in his day, I don’t know anyone who cares about him now. So it’s hard to say if a gun connected to him is worth a $60,000 premium.

That’s just what’s going on with the James Purdey & Sons 12g hammergun you see here. This side-by-side came up for sale in Christie’s, December 2014 sale:

JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN
JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN

A VERY RARE BARRÉ ENGRAVED 12-BORE TOPLEVER LIVE PIGEON HAMMERGUN. J. PURDEY & SONS, AUDLEY HOUSE, SOUTH AUDLEY STREET, LONDON, SERIAL NO. 19395.

The hammer price plus premium: $35,370. It looks to me like whoever has the gun now connected it to King Alfonso before or after he bought it. It certainly is a spectacular shotgun, and it appears to be in excellent condition. Regardless, though, the big question is: Is its connection to a King worth sixty large?

JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN
JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN

JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN32″ 029 AND 032 1 1/4 OZ PROOF DOUBLE TRIGGER EXTRACTORS SPLINTER FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP CHECKERED BUTT MAKERS CASE EXCELLENT CONDITION 7LBS 9 0Z X 2″ X 1 1/2″. Price: $99,500

More info from the seller:
“Purdey Hammer gun sn. 19395 came from a collection of Spanish Royal Firearms, from the household of King Alfonso XIII of Spain. The makers have confirmed that this hammergun was completed in April 1909 for the King of Spain, Alfonso XIII. The records are specific that Barre was the engraver. The gun is covered in finely chiseled low relief with foliate scrollwork illustrating monsters and masks upon a blackened background. Included is a gold inlaid escutcheon with the Spanish Royal Coat of Arms.

JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN
JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN

It is believed that the King used this gun in winning the Tiro-Pichon De Madrid in May 1921. Our provenance includes a picture of the King aside the trophy given for his win and holding what appears to be this gun. Purdey awarded the winner of the Tiro-Pichon De Madrid a prize gun that was to duplicate this piece, however Barre did not engrave the later gun as he was dead by 1921.”

BTW: A similar Purdey was also in Christie’s 12/2014 sale: #22210. You can read more about it in this post: The king of Spain’s Purdey pigeon shotgun brings $55,000…

JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN
JAMES PURDEY & SONS BEST BARRE ENGRAVE SIDELOCK SXS HAMMER SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE KING ALFONSO OF SPAIN

Here are couple other Purdeys attributed to Barre:

SPECTACULAR HIGH RELIEF 12 GAUGE BARRE ENGRAVED J. PURDEY & SONS DELUXE SIDE LOCK EJECTOR GAME GUN. SN 18218. Price realized: $50,600

James Purdey & Sons Side by Side Shotgun (Gift from King Edward VII to the Shah) Barre Engraved – 12 ga.

Holy hammergun: An incredible 12g Piotti Monaco SxS…

FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK

I posted a pic of this Piotti shotgun a couple weeks ago. I wanted to post some more pics today just so we could drool some more over this incredible SxS.

This hammergun was made by Fratelli Piotti. Steve Barnett has it on his website now. The gun was engraved by Mario Terzi, and it’s a two barrel set. Both are 30″.  It’s a heavy-ish gun (7lbs, 14ozs), and it has a high, long stock: 1 7/16″ x 2″, LOP 15″. Judging by these specs and the fat, file-cut rib, it was probably built for competitive shooting — possibly live pigeons.

Hammerguns used to be the only guns. But in 1870s, their successors appeared on the market. By the end of the 19th century, boxlocks and hammerless sidelocks ruled and hammerguns were disappearing. By World War 1, the they were pretty much gone from the sporting gun scene. Except for special-order models like these Purdey ejectors coming up at Holt’s and cheap, utility grades, hammerguns were gone.

In the late ’60s, the Italian maker Abbiatico & Salvinelli revived hammerguns. Their self-cocking Castore hammergun with coin finishes and lush engraving put an Italian stamp on these doubles. Collectors were interested, and eventually more Italian makers started building these guns.

FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK

Fratelli Piotti was started in the early ’60s by Araldo and Faustino Piotti. Today, the firm employs around 14 people and uses a combination of high-tech and manual craftsmanship to build some of the finest shotguns in Italy–include a range of hammerguns.

The Experience of a Customer at Piotti’s Workshop from Fratelli Piotti on Vimeo.

FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCKv
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK
FRATELLI PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE, SIDELOCK

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PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE
PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE

PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGETERZI ENGRAVED MADE 2004 THIS IS THE BEST HAMMER GUN I HAVE EVER SEEN BOTH SETS OF BARRELS ARE 30″ 2 3/4 #1 IS 010 AND 018 #2 IS 032 AND 042 DOUBLE TRIGGER EXTRACTORS BEAVERTAIL FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP CHECKERED BUTT WITH ENGRAVED HEEL AND TOE PLATES OAK AND LEATHER CASE NEW CONDITION 7LBS 14 OZ X 2″ X 1 7/16″ X 15″. Price: $89,500

F.W. HEYM BEST QUALITY SIDEPLATE BOXLOCK 12GA O/U SHOTGUN
F.W. HEYM BEST QUALITY SIDEPLATE BOXLOCK 12GA O/U SHOTGUN

F.W. HEYM BEST QUALITY SIDEPLATE BOXLOCK 12GA O/U SHOTGUNORNATE BEAUTIFUL GAME SCENES ENGRAVED ON ACTION, 30″ DEMI BLOCK SPLIT BBLS, 2 3/4, CHOKED FULL/FULL, VENT RIB, EJECTORS, SST, HIGHLY FIGURED WALNUT, PISTOL GRIP ENGRAVED CAP, 3 PC FOREND, VERY PRECISE SKIP LINE CHECKERING, 28 LPI, LOP 14 1/4 TO BEST LEATHER PAD, 1 1 /2, 2 3/8, 7LBS 4OZ, VERY MINTY, 99%! Price: $7,650

H.A. LINDER SUPERIOR GRADE 16GA SXS SHOTGUN
H.A. LINDER SUPERIOR GRADE 16GA SXS SHOTGUN

H.A. LINDER SUPERIOR GRADE 16GA“H.A. LINDER” , Prussian Mfg. 1912 (HAL&Crossed Pistols Maker’s Mark on BBL’s) , 16GA , 28″ Barrels choked: R-MOD (.016) L-FULL (.032) Bore’s Bright , Chambers 2 3/4″ , Sculptured Side-Clip Action with Third Fastener , Scroll Engraved , Cocking Indicators , Double Triggers , Ejectors , Pistol Grip Stock with Horn Gripcap (has engraved inlay w/original owners name) Dem’s: 1 1/2″x 2 9/16″x 14″LOP to original Horn Buttplate , Splinter Forend with Ebony Inlay at Tip , Very Nice European Walnut with lots of Figure , Checkered Side-Panels and Drop-Points , Casecolor 30-40% (vivid in protected areas) , blue 95%+ , wood 98% finish. Price: $6,500

Parker Reproduction Model DHE 20 Gauge 28"/26" Barrel Set, Straight Grip, Double Triggers
Parker Reproduction Model DHE 20 Gauge 28″/26″ Barrel Set, Straight Grip, Double Triggers

Parker Reproduction Model DHE 20 Gauge 28″/26″ Barrel Set, Straight Grip, Double TriggersPrice: $5,999.99
Caliber: 20 Gauge
Metal Condition: Metal Condition is Excellent
Wood Condition: Wood Condition is Excellent
Bore Condition: Bores are Bright and Shiny
Barrels: 28′ and 26″ Barrels
Triggers: Double Smooth Triggers
Stock: Nicely Figured Hardwood Stock with Double Panel Cut Checkering
Stock Dimensions:
14 1/4″ LOP; 2 ” DAH; 1.5″ DAC (center); 1 3/8″ DAC (front)
Fore End: Straight Hardwood Fore End
Butt Pad: Checkered Wood and Metal Butt Plate
Weight: 6 Pounds 12 Ounces
Sights: Single Brass Bead
Chokes: 28″ Full / Modified 26″ Modified / Improved Cylinder

Ithaca NID 16ga Side-by-Side Shotgun
Ithaca NID 16ga Side-by-Side Shotgun

Ithaca NID 16ga Side-by-Side ShotgunSerial no 466xxx 28″, M/F, DT, SF, 14″ Lop to wrong buttplate, Pistol grip cap not good, 20% case color, 90% Blue, wood shows handling marks nothing bad, good bore. Price: $995

More pics of that great 10 gauge James Purdey hammergun…

James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun
James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun

There are a lot of Purdeys on the market today. Some are worked over, some are worn out  and some are overpriced. A lot are of them are all three, and that’s why so many of these guns have been looking for buyers for so long. But every now and then a real legit Purdey pops up. When it does, it usually sells right away.

This is one of these nicest vintage Purdeys I’ve seen in a while. It has condition and it was reasonably price. That’s why it sold in fewer than 12 hours.

James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun
James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun

From what I can tell, this gun was made in the late 1860s, early 1870s. Westley Richards invented the toplever in the 1862 and James Purdey patented their underbolt in 1863. The Scott spindle used to connect the two was patented in 1865. The gun you see here uses all three, so it has to be post 1865.

James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun
James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun

This gun also has a keyed forend, a feature from the percussion era that Purdey stop using when they switched to the Anson-patent forend release (introduced in 1872), and bar-action locks, which Purdey was just switching to as it developed a more modern look for its guns. One thing it’s missing is drop-points. This is pretty common on earlier Purdey. The sideclips are interesting. You don’t see side clips on a hammergun, and this has to be one of the first doubles Purdey used them on.

James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun
James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun

James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun: Rare light weight (8 pound) hammer game gun. Outstanding all original condition with very nice wood and good amount of case cloring remaining. Excellent 31 inch fine damascus barrels.Rare side clips and top lever. Very nice engraving and checkering.Proper 2 5/8 inch chambers with open chokes. Throws outstanding patterns and feels like a 12 bore. Excellent shootable dimensions and 14.5 inch LOP. Very little lifetime use and overall excellent condition.

James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun
James Purdey 10 Bore SxS Hammer Gun

Auction alert: Super nice 12g W & C Scott hammergun…

Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com

I don’t need any more hammerguns…I don’t need any more hammerguns …I don’t need any more hammerguns…

I need to keep saying this to myself every time I look at this SxS.

W. & C. Scotts I  are some my favorite doubles–especially old and original ones like this. It’s on Gunbroker.com now and the listing ends 12/20/2015 @ 7:50:00 PM ET.

Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com

This 12 gauge was made in the 1880s, and it was a medium-grade shotgun in its day. But look at the quality — from the metal-to-metal fit on the locks & action to the colors. And check out how the stock is shaped up. The checkering is nice, too. Then there’s that deep, inky blue on the triggerguard. You can almost dive into it and swim around. Not even Purdey or Hartmann & Weiss does that kind of blueing today and those guns are $125,000+.

Ughh. I don’t need any more hammerguns…I don’t need any more hammerguns …I don’t need any more hammerguns…

Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com

Antique WC SCOTT HAMMER DAMASCUS SHOTGUN Very Nice: This auction features the pictured Antique W.C. Scott 12 Gauge Shotgun with exposed hammers and Damascus Barrels. This gun has been in storage for about 40 years and still has some dried grease that needs to be removed. A real Barn Find! This gun is tight and has good bores with a little minor pitting. The barrels measure 31 and 1/8 inches with very tight FULL CHOKES. The length of pull is 14 and 1/8 inches. Note all the remaining original Case colors!

Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com
Antique 12g W & C Scott SxS Hammergun on Gunbroker.com

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JOHN RIGBY BEST PRE WAR SXS DOUBLE RIFLE 22 HI POWER
JOHN RIGBY BEST PRE WAR SXS DOUBLE RIFLE 22 HI POWER

JOHN RIGBY BEST PRE WAR SXS DOUBLE RIFLE 22 HI POWERSIDELOCK EJECTOR 24″ BARRELS WITH 1/4 RIB ONE STANDING SIGHT GREAT BORES DOUBLE TRIGGER PISTOL GRIP SPLINTER FOREARM EXCELLENT PLUS CONDITION MAKERS CASE WITH ACCESORIES 7LB 6 OZ X 14 7/8″. Price: $69,500

HOFFMAN ARMS CO. SIDE-BY-SIDE DOUBLE RIFLE
HOFFMAN ARMS CO. SIDE-BY-SIDE DOUBLE RIFLE

HOFFMAN ARMS CO. SIDE-BY-SIDE DOUBLE RIFLE10.75x68mm Mauser caliber (similar to .404 Jeffery).   26″ barrels with automatic ejectors and raised quarter rib with four leaf folding express sights.  The frame and barrels were supplied by Sempert & Krieghoff in 1929 to the Hoffman Arms Co.   It was stocked,  and finished by Seymour Griffin formerly of Griffin & Howe.  The receiver although unsigned appears to be beautifully engraved by Rudolph Kornbraith and has  “HOFFMAN ARMS CO”  in a banner on each side.  Checkered forend and pistol grip buttstock with engraved grip cap and ending with a hard rubber pad.  Condition is very high retaining considerable barrel blue, excellent casehardened finish on the receiver and triggerguard.  Super wood and checkering.  Beautiful mint bores.  Weight: 9lbs 6oz.  LOP: 14 1/8″   Comb: 1 1/2″  Heel: 2 1/4″.   This rifle is very accurate and with the proper load and  bullet will handle most anything. Price: $24,950

BERETTA - RARE - ASE - 20ga - 26" - Vent Rib - Single Trigger - Prince of Whales - 1959 Hand Built Quality
BERETTA – RARE – ASE – 20ga – 26″ – Vent Rib – Single Trigger – Prince of Whales – 1959 Hand Built Quality

BERETTA – RARE – ASE – 20ga – 26″ – Vent Rib – Single Trigger – Prince of Whales – 1959 Hand Built Quality: IC / IM (.009 / .020), Tapered Field Style Vent Rib, Ejectors, Single Trigger, Prince of Whales Round Knob Grip, LOP 14-3/8″, Drop 1-1/4″ to 2-1/8″, Cast Off for the Right Hand, Weight 5 lbs. 8 oz. Appears to be all original and overall Excellent Condition. Clearly hasn’t been used hard. Price: $5,150

  • Barrels – about perfect condition.
  • Bores – as new and measure exactly as they left the factory in 1959.
  • Forearm – excellent plus.
  • Receiver and Trigger Guard – excellent plus.
  • Butt Stock – original, but some finish issues. No cracks or repairs. New laquer fixes any problems with the Butt Stock. The butt plate has shrunk. I’ve seen this on Beretta shotguns from this era before.
WILLIAM R. PAPE ISLAND SIDELOCK 12GA HAMMERGUN
WILLIAM R. PAPE ISLAND SIDELOCK 12GA HAMMERGUN

WILLIAM R. PAPE ISLAND SIDELOCK 12GA HAMMERGUN: WITH RARE LEVER RELEASE, BEAUTIFUL TIGHT ENGLISH SCROLL ENGRAVING WITH TRACES OF CASE COLORS, 29″ FINE DAMASCUS BBLS WITH DOLLSHEAD, 2 3/4″ NITRO PROOF, 850 BAR, MIN WALLS, 28 THOU PLUS, CHOKED IC/FULL, STANDARD GAME RIB, EXTRACTORS, DBL TRIGGERS, HIGHLY FIGURED ENGLISH WALNUT WITH ENGRAVED TOE & HEEL PLATES, LOP 14 1/2, 1 3/8, 1 13/16, 6LBS 7OZ, BERY FINE ORIGINAL CONDITION, EXCELLENT BORE, TIGHT ON FACE!  Price: $4,295

CHARLES DALY MODEL 500 20GA SxS BY MIROKU
CHARLES DALY MODEL 500 20GA SxS BY MIROKU

CHARLES DALY MODEL 500 20GA SxS BY MIROKU: The nicest Model 500 I have seen. Very few minor imperfections in wood and metal. Close to new. 28in barrels have had the chokes opened to IC and MOD . Price: $1200
Manufacturer: Miroku
Model: Charles Daly Model 500
Bore: 20 GA
Chambers: 3IN
Condition: Close to New
Barrels: 28IN
Triggers: 2
Stock Comb: 1 1/2IN
Stock Heel: 2 9/16IN
LOP: 14 1/4
Weight: 6.6 lbs

 

 

Absolutely awesome: A 16g Charles Lancaster SxS hammergun …

CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE

Here’s a fascinating old shotgun in incredible original condition. It’s a Charles Lancaster SxS hammergun, and I’m guessing it’s from the early 1870s.

Charles Lancaster started out in the London gun trade in 1811 as a barrel maker. Soon he was known as the best in the business, and his barrels were being used by the top gunmakers of the day, including Manton and Purdey. In 1826, Charles Lancaster launched his own gunmaking business at 151 New Bond Street, London. After his death in 1847, his business was taken over by his sons: Charles William and Alfred (who left to start his own firm in 1860). Charles William Lancaster run his father’s business until his death in 1878. Henry Alfred Alexander Thorn, one of Charles William Lancaster former apprentices, purchased the business in 1879 and renamed it Charles Lancaster and Co.

Charles William Lancaster came up with a number of unique designs, including the Pillar Breech Rifle (1848), Oval Bore Rifling (1850) and the Gas Check Bullet (1851). In 1853, he came up with the Base-fire cartridge – the first true centerfire cartridge ever developed.

CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE

On the original base-fires shotguns, the barrels slide forward from the action and then dropped down when the gun opened. This guns isn’t a base fire, but it incorporates the low hammers and in-line firing pins that were two of the signatures of Lancaster’s base-fire design.

CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE: 28″ DAMASCUS BARRELS GREAT BORES CYLINDER AND MODIFIED 2 1/2″ CHAMBERS DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTOR SPLINTER FOREARM EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION IN MAKERS CASE 5LBS 15 OZ X 2 9/16″ X 1 9/16″ X 14 7/16″. Price: $13,500

CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE
CHARLES LANCASTER BEST SIDELEVER HAMMER GUN 16 GAUGE

A dream almost comes true …

12g W. & C. Scott Premier hammergun, bar in wood
12g W. & C. Scott Premier hammergun, bar in wood

I love old W. & C. Scotts, especially Premiers. They’re one of the apexes of gunmaking, and in their day, they were one of the finest guns made (and extremely expensive). Scott sold a lot of them to American shooters, and most of the ones you see on the market today are hammerless models like this one, and, occasionally, bar-action hammerguns like this.

But here’s a W & C Scott Premier hammergun unlike any others I’ve ever seen. It’s a 12g Premier hammergun built on a bar-in-wood style action. A few years ago, a dealer called Mid South advertised one of these. I wonder if it’s the same gun? Actually, I hope it’s not.

12g W. & C. Scott Premier hammergun, bar in wood
12g W. & C. Scott Premier hammergun, bar in wood

On this one, some knucklehead F-up the bbls. They’re cut, and the chambers have been lengthened. Other than that, it’s a stunning shotgun, and it looks like it’s in great shape. When I first saw it, I was on the phone right away. I had 1/2 the dealer’s number punched in before I read the part about the barrels. Then I hung up. That kind of shit is a deal killer for me.

BTW: A gunsmith friend of mine told me that a lot of the English bar-in-wood shotguns he has seen came out of the same shop in Birmingham – at least in the early stages. This includes bar-in-woods with famous names like James Purdey on them.

This guns looks like the some of the Purdey bar-in-woods I’ve seen. I wonder if it originated in this same place.

12g W. & C. Scott Premier hammergun, bar in wood
12g W. & C. Scott Premier hammergun, bar in wood

Auction alert: Odd Ithaca…16 gauge B-grade hammergun…

ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION

When I think of Ithaca, the shotguns that come to mind are SxSs like the Flues, NIDs, and the Magnum 10s, as well as the company’s fantastic Model 37 pump (in 16 gauge, of course).

The last shotgun I think of the one you see here: a  boxlock-style hammergun in 16 gauge with damascus barrels. It’s on Gunbroker.com now and the online auctions ends on 2/14/2015 @ 6:49:38 PM ET.

Ithaca made hammerguns from about 1886-1913. It made a lot of them, too — around 46,00 in all. These shotguns went through a number of refinements over their 27-year run, and the model you see here is the Ithaca hammergun in its final stage. As you can see, it’s sort of a boxlock with external hammers – an odd but effective design. Ithaca made hammerguns in a number of grades. This is a B – a low-mid grade -and it appears to be in excellent original condition. I love the crisp finish on the wood and those long damascus barrels.

ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION

ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION: 30 INCH DAMASCUS BBLS WITH EXCELLENT BORES WITH FULL AND FULL CHOKES. LOP IS 14 AND DAH IS 2-1/2 INCHES. WITH 2-1/2 INCH CHAMBERS.WEIGHT IS 6 LBS 10 OZS. GREAT WOOD WITH FEW HANDLING MARKS AND NICE PATINA ON THE BBLS. GUN IN UNTOUCHED ORIGINAL CONDITION. SHE WAS BUILT IN 1912.

 

ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION
ITHACA 16 GA B-GRADE SxS HAMMER GUN IN GREAT CONDITION

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Cogswell & Harrison Hammergun, 30" Damascus barrels
Cogswell & Harrison Hammergun, 30″ Damascus barrels

Cogswell & Harrison Hammergun, 30″ Damascus barrels: 2-1/2″ chambers.  Bar action sidelock completely engraved in fine foliate scroll,.  Percussion fences.  The hammers, of substantial size, add to the impressive style of this circa 1880s gamegun. Splinter forend with swing lever release, straight hand stock with high, modern dimensions (1-1/2″ comb, 1-7/8″ heel, 14-1/2″ LOP) should be just the ticket for rising birds.  The Damascus pattern of rich deep brown color and contrast are at about 100% finish.  The action retains a wonderful glow of patina and case colors.  Beautifully figured French walnut, a fabulous example in the original canvas case.  Weighs 6lbs, 14 oz.  Perfect for your vintage events! Price: $5,500

MERKEL OVER UNDER, 12GA, 271/2″: BUILT 1943, CHOKES ,010 & ,012, THREE PIECE FOREARM, CHECKERED BUTT, DOUBLE TRIGGER, 1 3/8″ X 2 1/8″ X 14 3/8″, BEAUTIFUL COLLECTIBLE PIECE IN THE GREATEST CONDITION.

MERKEL OVER UNDER, 12GA, 271/2": BUILT 1943
MERKEL OVER UNDER, 12GA, 271/2″: BUILT 1943

CSMC RBL LAUNCH EDITION SxS 20GA SHOTGUN: 28″ barrels w/ 5 screw chokes. Self opener. 15 1/4″ LOP leather covered pad. Double triggers, automatic ejectors. 98-99% in original luggage case with accessories. Price: $3,050

CSMC RBL LAUNCH EDITION SxS 20GA SHOTGUN
CSMC RBL LAUNCH EDITION SxS 20GA SHOTGUN
Beretta Model 471 Silver Hawk 20 Ga.
Beretta Model 471 Silver Hawk 20 Ga.

Beretta Model 471 Silver Hawk 20 Ga: 28″ bbls, 3″ chambers, IC/IM ejectors, 14 1/2″ LOP, 6 lbs. 4 oz. Double triggers. This elegant side-by-side 20 Gauge has a richly blued, concave rib barrel set paired with a case colored receiver and a checkered walnut stock set. The trigger guard, forend iron and release, top snap, and bottom tang are also case colored. The lever is far right of center. It is fitted with ejectors. It has a traditional double trigger group with an articulated front. The English-style straight stock ends in a wooden buttplate bearing the Beretta Trident logo. It comes with the maker’s hard case. Price: $2,799.99

Thomas Johnson 12b Hammer Gun
Thomas Johnson 12b Hammer Gun

Thomas Johnson 12b Hammer Gun: A really nice 12bore hammer gun by a provincial maker. Back action locks. 60% coverage crisp scroll engraving Gun is in excellent condition with 28″ lovely patterened damascus barrels with near perfect bores and nitro proofed. Tight and on face. Choked cyl/cyl. LOP=14 3/8 to a horn butt. DAC=1 1/2 DAH=2 1/4 Weight = 6lbs 5oz Min wall R=.026 11″ from muzzle L = .026 10″ from muzzle. Nicely patterned butt stock wood. Price: $2150

 

Wow – check out the condition on this 130-year old W. & C. Scott…

10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887

Here’s a stunning SxS shotgun. This 10 -gauge W.  & C. Scott is almost 130 years old and it looks like it’s close to new and all original:

W. C. Scott & Sons SXS 10 GA, 30″ barrels Full and Full 14″ LOP 9.8 pounds great bores nice tight lockup.

This shotgun is an  W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triplex, Scott’s B-grade hammerless double and one step down from The Premier, their best quality double. (Scott also made at least two back-action “Premier Extra Specials” during this time, but I don’t think that grade was ever officially offered by the company.) The color-case hardening is fantastic and I love the acorns chiseled on the locks and action. The brown on the bbls is great, too and so is the blueing (note: Those bbls were browned originally and never finished in black & white like some people believe). Check out the shape of the stock, too. Nobody makes stocks like that anymore.

Scott made back-action Excellentia’s from 1884 to 1888. I think this one was made in 1887. It’s on a Scott & Baker patent action and it has Scott & Baker patent gas checks, a version of Scott’s patent Triplex Lever Grip and Crystal Cocked Indicators and Needham & Hinton-patent Block Safety (intercepting sears) on the locks. What a gun.

If you have a Scott shotgun and are looking to find out more about it or sell it, please let me know. I would be happy to help you with it.

10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887
10g W. & C. Scott Excellentia Triple back action sidelock SxS shotgun, circa 1887

 

A beautiful 10g hammergun by John Dickson & Sons…

John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun

John Dickson & Sons is Scotland most famous gunmaker. Established in 1820, Dickson first made a name for itself in the 1840s with their fine “Improved Two Grooved Rifles”, a modified version of the British Army’s Brunswick rifle. Later in 1880, the company patented their famous  Round Action trigger plate shotgun. In between, they built the 10 bore hammer gun you see.

This double was sold by Dickson in December, 1875, and it looks very original. As you can tell from the specs, it’s big, heavy gun, probably made for pigeon shooting or waterfowling. I would love to get my hands on it and find out how those 32″ barrels feel.

John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun: Barrel: 32″, Stock: 141/2“, Chokes: 1/8 & 1/8, Weight: 8lb. 2oz. Bore: Left thou, Right thou, Min Wall: Left 35th thou, Right 35th thou, Circa: 1873 Trigger: 2, Ejection: Yes, Serial #: 3179. Price: £6,995

John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever)  Shotgun
John Dickson & Son, 10 gauge Hammer (Under Lever) Shotgun

This week’s good guns: Powered by Gunsinternational.com…

Pre-war Westley Richards 12 ga. pair, 28' barrels
Pre-war Westley Richards 12 ga. pair, 28′ barrels

Pre-war Westley Richards 12 ga. pair, 28′ barrels: 2-3/4″ chambers.  Numbered 1 and 2 in gold; #1 choked modified/modified (.017/.017), #2 choked improved cylinder and open modified (.010/.013).  Single selective triggers, automatic ejectors.  These are “Best Quality” Westley guns as described in their catalog.  The scalloped back actions feature hinged floorplates and the Westley patent detachable locks, dolls head extension with sliding third bite.  Guns are fully engraved with fine English scroll surrounding “Westley Richards” in a banner.  Trigger guards engraved with a pointing dog.  Guns retain 95% case color and 96% blue.  Splinter forends, nicely figured straight grip stocks measure about 1-1/2′ comb, 2-1/8″ heel, LOP 14″ over a 3/4″ leather pad. Weight is just shy of  6 lbs, 12 oz.  Complete with fitted full leather trunk case with brass corners. Price: $23,500

Beautiful and rare 16ga Bittner Side lock, built in 1915, as shown in the Double Gun Journal
Beautiful and rare 16ga Bittner Side lock, built in 1915, as shown in the Double Gun Journal

Beautiful and rare 16ga Bittner Side lock, built in 1915, as shown in the Double Gun Journal: Very Rare Bittner side lock, built in 1915 and sold by Stavanoha in Vienna. The gun features beautiful wood and fine rose scroll engraving, 29.5″ long barrels, a LOP of 14.25″, DAC of 1.5″ and DAH of 2.75″. Solid silvers pad and the nicely engraved long trigger guard tang as should be found on a straight gripped gun. This remarkable gun not only survived two world wars but was also featured in the Double Gun Journal a few years ago. This little sweetheart weighs only 6.6lbs too. Price: $7,800

 

Rigby Hammer Double 12 GA SxS
Rigby Hammer Double 12 GA SxS

Rigby Hammer Double 12 GA SxS:  Caliber: 12 GA, Chambers: 2 3/4 inch, Metal Condition: Very good. Shows a little age, Wood Condition: Very good with minor handling marks. Bore Condition: Bright and shiny. Barrels: 30 inch Damascus steel with a solid rib. Triggers: Double. Stock: Checkered walnut straight stock. Engraved receiver, tangs, hammers and side plates. Stock Dimensions:LOP 14 1/2 inches. Fore End: Checkered walnut Splinter. Butt Pad: Smooth steel plate. Weight: 6 lbs. 12 oz. Chokes: Fixed Mod. and Cyl. Extras:With Case. Price: $6,499.99

W.R. Pape 12b Hammer Gun
W.R. Pape 12b Hammer Gun

W.R. Pape 12b Hammer Gun:  Pape hammer gun in excellent original condition utilizing Papes patent 1504 of 1866 for lock up. 29″ damascus barrels choked R -IC, L-IM, and with recent British nitro proof and 2 3/4″ chambers. Bores are near perfect. Min wall Thickness R=.030 6″ from muzzle, L=.026 9″ from Muzzle. It was made in 1887. Profuse and crisp engraving all over along with Papes fancy checkering patterns make for a beautiful and unique gun It weighs 6lbs 2oz. Back action locks with rebounding hammers. LOP is 14 3/8 to heel and toe plates and a uniquely checked butt in between. There is a sligtht cast for right hand shooters. This gun is a collectors dream, made by the “Purdey” of the north. The only negative is that one of the hammer screws is missing – it has been replaced but it shoud be remade and engraved by a professional. The original was lost while shooting skeet several years ago. Price: $5500

Uriguen 12b sidelock SxS shotgun with 7 pin H&H style locks
Uriguen 12b sidelock SxS shotgun with 7 pin H&H style locks

Uriguen 12b sidelock SxS shotgun with 7 pin H&H style locks: Like new condition Uriguen high end Spanish double with removeable H&H style 7 pin locks with gold washed parts. 100% very crisp engraving coverage with more at breech end of barrels. Barrels are 32″ choked R=IC, L=IM and beautifully blacked. My original intent when I got this gun was to have the barrels shortened to 30″ and removeable chokes installed but I never got to it. Nicely grained stock wood with crisp fine checkering. It weighs 7 lbs. 4oz. LOP=14 5/8 to a Silvers style pad. Dac= 1 1/4, Dah= 1 3/4. There is also a slight cast for a right handed shooter. Non ejector. I will split shipping your dealer in contiguous 48. More Pix to interested buyers. Price: $2500

A couple nice hammerguns, both by Thomas Bland & Sons…

Thomas Bland, Gunmakers, Strand, London
Thomas Bland, Gunmakers, Strand, London

If there’s one thing that gets my heart racing, it’s a nice, old hammergun. I’ve always loved hammerguns. If they have any faults, it’s that most of them are 120+ years old. That means they’ve have had plenty of time to be used and abused, leaving them so worn out and so messed with I wouldn’t want to own them.

But that doesn’t appear to be the case with either of these hammerguns. From what I can see, they both look they’re in excellent, shootable condition. Both of them were made by Thomas Bland & Sons, a British gunmaker that started out in 1840 and continues on to this day.

12 gauge Thomas Bland Improved Gamekeeper SxS Hammer Shotgun
12 gauge Thomas Bland Improved Gamekeeper SxS Hammer Shotgun

Thomas Bland Improved Gamekeeper: 12ga , 30 inch 1/4 and full choke barrels, nitro proofed, the gun is in like new mechanical condition, mint bores, the entire gun is very tight, 14 3/8 LOP, beautiful walnut stock. I believe the gun was professionally reconditioned in England, great balance and fit, no cast, 1 1/2 DAC, 2 1/2 DAH, 2 3/4 chambers, a great shooter. Price: $1,950

T. BLAND 12GA LONDON HAMMERGUN ANTIQUE: Very nice 12ga London made non rebounding hammergun. Made before well 1889. Gun has been reproofed in London for Nitro powder 850 BAR. Gun locks up tight on face. Barrels ring. Very nice brown Damascus Pattern with a few scatterd blemishes. Crisp locks. Nice wood with a few hunting marks. Good shooting dementions. Ribs are tight, no dents, bores are bright with scattered imperfection and a few light pits. Price: $2575

T. BLAND 12GA LONDON HAMMERGUN ANTIQUE SxS
T. BLAND 12GA LONDON HAMMERGUN ANTIQUE SxS

Manufacturer: T.BLAND
Model: NON REBOUNDING HAMMERGUN
Serial Number: 3235
Bore: R.721 L .722
Chambers: 2 1/2in
Condition: EXCELENT
Metal Condition: Excellent
Wood Condition: Excellent
Bore Condition: VERY GOOD
Barrels: DAMASCUS
Gauge: 12GA
Stock Comb: 1 9/16IN
Stock Heel: 2 1/4IN

T. BLAND 12GA LONDON HAMMERGUN ANTIQUE SxS
T. BLAND 12GA LONDON HAMMERGUN ANTIQUE SxS

Stock Cast: RIGHT HAND
Butt Pad: heel & toe clips
LOP: 14 5/16
Weight: 7.45lbs
Manufacture Date: well before 1889
Choke Left: CYL
Choke Right: CYL
Proof:Nitro: 850 BAR 1990

Minimum Wall Thickness Left: .035
Minimum Wall Thickness Right: .031

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