Auction alert: A 12g Charles Daly Feather Weight SxS…

Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun
Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun

In 1884, Westley Richard invented the Anson & Deeley boxlock. Even though Westley revised their design into the 20 century, many collectors believe the companies who really perfected it were Francotte, and  in Prussia, H.A. Lindner. Most of Lindner’s A&D boxlock shotguns were imported into this country by Charles Daly.

Charles Daly was a businessman. Around 1875 he partnered with August Shoverling to import shotguns into the United States. These side-by-sides were marketed under the Charles Daly name, and early on they were built by serveral different makers.

By the time this gun was built, Daly had established his relationship with Lindner. The Lindner-Daly relationship lasted from the end of the 19th century until around WW1, and produced some of the finest boxlock shotguns ever built.

Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun
Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun

This shotgun is coming up tomorrow at Echoes of Glory International Military Auction House. It’s a hard-to-find Feather Weight model. Even though it looks like it has a few issue, it could be a very nice SxS.

Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun: A circa 1895-1910 breech-loading smokeless powder Daly German Double-Barrel Shotgun in good to very good condition. Finely-engraved case-hardened receiver, fluid-steel featherweight barrels, nice burl-walnut stocks and sling-swivels. At one point, it was fitted with a Pachmayr recoil pad. Some very light rust-pitting, overall a beautiful shotgun, full chokes and near new bores. Barrel release does not snapback.

Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun
Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun
Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun
Charles Daly German 12 Ga Feather Weight Double-Barrel Shotgun

Truly investment grade: a stunning 20 gauge Charles Daly Regent Diamond side by side…

20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY "REGENT DIAMOND" SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN

Investing in shotguns is tricky business. Most of the time the subject comes up I snicker and think “Good luck.” I’ve seen a lot of shotguns and I’ve been around auctions & dealers for a while now. In that time, I’ve seen just a few guns I would consider good enough to invest in.  I think this 20 gauge Charles Daly Regent Diamond SxS is one of them.

For collectors, this little Daly has it all: original condition, incredibly high quality, and scarcity. It’s also another advantage. Over the last decade, shooters and collectors have rediscovered just how fantastic pre-WW2 Daly’s are. Demand has risen and prices have climbed. This trend will continue, especially when for guns like this one.

20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY "REGENT DIAMOND" SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN

Regent Diamond’s were Daly’s best guns, and one of the best shotguns ever made. The one you see here is fantastic a example — and it’s a super scarce 20 gauge with 28″ barrels. When it comes to collecting, one thing people will always want is the best of the best. This is it.

TRULY EXCEPTIONAL, INVESTMENT QUALITY, 20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” GAME GUN WITH HANG TAGS. SN 25254. Cal. 20 ga. 2-3/4″ Chambers. This very fine, top of the line, small bore creation, made in Germany for the firm Charles Daly, has 28″ dovetailed bbls with raised, concave, matted game rib, fitted with Bradley red bead front and King red bead mid sights. Rib is gold inlaid on milled out portion, “Charles Daly Regent Diamond Quality”. Breech portion of bbls are engraved for 2-1/2″ with exceptionally well detailed open, shaded scroll emanating from acanthus ferns, as base for scroll framed logos for Witten Excelsior steel. 2-3/4″ chambers. Bottoms of bbls with provisional proofs are stamped “Excelsior Witten”.

20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY "REGENT DIAMOND" SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN

Scallop-backed, case hardened, boxlock action with intercepting sears, stamped “PRUSSIA” on water table, features automatic safeties (SAFE inlaid in gold), gold-plated pin type cocking indicators, side clips, and square crossbolt third fastener. Nickel-plated double triggers have very fine checkering on finger blades. Action is embellished with exceptionally well cut and beautifully shaded large open scroll matching bbls, surrounding well detailed oval vignettes of game birds, gold inlaid in high relief. Buttstock measures 13-3/4″ over orig ribbed horn buttplate. There is a small inset horn oval on pistol grip tip, and a gold oval on toe line is engraved “G.P.” Stock side panels have broad chip carved borders to central checkered areas, drop point extensions which protrude into checkering which has fancy crenelated borders. Matching, long splinter ejector forend has fleur-di-lis extensions into checkering, horn tip, and Deeley type release. Bore diameter: left-.640, right -.640. Bore restrictions: left -.035 (Full), right -.025 (IMod). Wall thickness: left -.025, right -.026. Drop at heel: 3″, drop at comb: 1-7/16″. Weight: 5 lbs. 5 oz. LOP: 13-3/4″.

20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY "REGENT DIAMOND" SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN

PROVENANCE: Charles Daly hang tag for this gun along with Abercrombie & Fitch hang tag for this gun, with specifications. (Affixed to trigger guard)

CONDITION: Exceptionally fine. Bbls retain nearly all of what appears to be orig lustrous blue, with only a few very minor marks, mostly from contact with action and forend. Action retains 95 – 98% orig case hardening color, with only a hint of silvering on highest points of fences and sharp edges. Trigger guard is slightly silvered at grip, top lever slightly silvered on thumbpiece. The only marks on breechface are from contact with ends of bbls. There are no cartridge or primer halos around firing pin holes. Stocks retain essentially all of their orig rubbed oil finish with some open grain and a few minor marks, checkering excellent. Bores are excellent, bright and shiny. Action is tight. Bbls are on face. Ejectors are in time. As fine an example of this super rare gun as one could ever hope to find. Estimate: $20,000-30,000

20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY "REGENT DIAMOND" SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY "REGENT DIAMOND" SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN
20 GAUGE CHARLES DALY “REGENT DIAMOND” SxS DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN

Good gun alert: 20 gauge Charles Daly Diamond grade double….

20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun
20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun

I just found this Charles Daly on Gunbroker.com, and it looks like a very nice shotgun. It’s a 20 gauge, and it looks like a standard, Lindner-made Diamond quality. It’s a tough double to find in a small bore, and it looks like it’s in excellent condition. Right now it’s at $6000 – a very fair price.

If it looks good to you, bid on it right away. The auction ends today @ 5:50:12 PM ET. So bid away. The seller is offering a 3-day inspection, so you should be covered.

Here’s more about the shotgun from the seller:

20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun
20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun

20 gauge Charles Daly Diamond Grade Double Barrel Shotgun: Charles Daly. Made in Prussia. 20 Ga. Barrels Marked Excelsior Witton. Serial Number 2480. Matching Numbers. Ejectors. Double Triggers. LOP Measures 14″. THIS IS A USED FIREARM AND IS IN IT’S ORIGINAL CONDITION. APPROX 80% TO 85% CONDITION. HAS NOT BEEN CUT OR ALTERED IN ANY WAY. NO SPLITS OR CRACKS IN FOREARM OR STOCK, SMALL CHIP IN KNOB OF PISTOL GRIP, BORES ARE EXCELLENT.

20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun
20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun
20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun
20 gauge Charles Daly Lindner-made, Diamond quality double barrel shotgun

Wait a minute on that Daly double rifle…

So I have an addendum to my last post about the Charles Daly double barrel coming to auction at Redding’s on Sunday: I’m not so sure that it left Prussia as a double rifle. Last night I spent a little time looking closely at the pictures and a few things about the gun jumped out at me:

A Charles Daly Double Rifle, Prussian, 30-40 Krag
Barrels on Charles Daly Double Rifle

-The forend. This gun has an extractor-style forend. It doesn’t have any of mechanics for ejectors.

-But in the pic of the barrels, you can clearly see that the extractors (the things that lift the shells out of the chambers) are split. This means these barrels were made for ejectors.

-Next, check the leaf sight. That’s not Prussian Charles Daly quality. I don’t know where that site came from, but it doesn’t look like it’s original to the barrels.

-Finally, the serial number on the forend and action is 1305. But it looks like the # on the action is 1365. This may be a maker’s mistake. But considering the gun’s other issue, it raises another big red flag.

So what are we looking at here? I’m not sure, really. But I’m not so sure this gun left the factory in Prussia as a double rifle. Someone has modified it, and maybe with a set of barrels from another gun.

A Charles Daly Double Rifle, Prussian, 30-40 Krag
Forend on the Charles Daly Double Rifle
A Charles Daly Double Rifle, Prussian, 30-40 Krag
Barrels on the Charles Daly Double Rifle
A Charles Daly Double Rifle, Prussian, 30-40 Krag
Leaf sight on Charles Daly Double Rifle
A Charles Daly Double Rifle, Prussian, 30-40 Krag
Action from Charles Daly Double Rifle
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