Hard-core trap shooters are an odd bunch. They’ll do anything to get an edge. They’ll even shoot a gun with a stock like you see here.
Stunning Special order Ithaca Grade 2E 32 in SxS: Unique and historic Ithaca trap gun. 32 in SWAMPED RIB barrels and High Monte Carlo stock. As shown in other Ithaca Models in Lawrence (Lon) Smith’s book Better Trap Shooting. IN exceptional original condition, this gun would make a superb addition to a serious double gun or trap shooting collection.
The Ithaca Flues is one of my favorite American doubles. While these SxSs aren’t as highly regarded as Foxes or Parkers, there’s something about them that appeals to me. Judging by the success of the model, there was something about them that appealed to other people, too.
The Ithaca Flues was one of the most popular SxSs ever made in America. Available from 1908 to 1925, around 223,000 of these shotguns were built. An American gunsmith named Emil Flues came up with the design and Ithaca turned it into a simple, reliable double available at a pricel below other quality shotguns available at the time. Obviously, people thought they were a good deal.
Ithaca’s Flues came in five grades: 1, 2, 4, 6 & 7, The one you see here is a Grade 4 with ejectors (the “E” in 4E), and to my eye it features enough embellishment to be attactive without going over board looking pimped out
ITHACA GRADE 4E FLUES MODEL SxS: 20 ga double bbl. 28″ bbls with a solid matte rib choked modified and full. Good amount of orig blue finish on bbls. Slight wear at the muzzle. Case colored scroll engraved frame that has aged to a grey patina. Fleur-de-lis checkered pistol grip stock is in good condition. Typical handling mars. Rubber recoil pad. Price:$3,995
PARKER 28” VHE 16 GAUGE FACTORY STRAIGHT GRIP EJECTORS CHOKED MOD & IC #1 FRAME: Very nice 16 ga Parker VHE original straight grip with great dimensions 14 3/8 LOP 1 3/8 DAC & 2 ½ DAH and 28” barrels 2 5/8” chambers choked .015 Mod & .010 IC, all matching S/N including the stock Keith Kearcher refinished the wood and it came out beautiful. I did not have to do anything to the metal as the bluing is still good & CC still on the receiver. The bores are good but some light flaking out towards the choke but they are surface only. Price:$3150
Caliber: 12 Ga
Metal Condition: Very Good
Wood Condition: Very Good
Bore Condition: Very Good
Barrels: 29.5 Inches
Stock: Checkered Pistol Grip
Fore End: Checkered
Butt Pad: 14 Inches
Ithaca 1911 Grade 4E Flues SXS 20ga with Ejectors 28″ Krupp Fluid Steel Barrels Beautiful: Wow, what a nice piece to add to anyone’s Collection, very early, 1911 Ithaca Flues Grade 4 Side by Side 20ga Shotgun with 28″ Barrels. Price:$5,999
Model: Flues 4E
Serial Number: 214159
Metal Condition: Excellent
Wood Condition: Excellent
Bore Condition: Mirror
Manufacture Date: 1911
Engraving: Grade 4 Yes!
Ansley H. Fox Side By Side 20 Gauge “A E” Grade: This shotgun’s serial number is 202993. It is a 20 gauge shotgun fitted with auto ejectors and double triggers The barrels are 28 inches long. These barrels have the solid rib. They are choked Full and Full. The “pull’ is 14 and 3/8 inches from the front trigger. The recoil pad is a “Old English” style pad. The barrels have no dents or blemishes. The barrels are made with chromox fluid compressed steel. The barrels also say Made By A.H. Fox Gun Co. Phila. Pa. U.S.A. The engraving is sharp and clean. The checkering is in very fine condition with sharp diamonds. This shotgun locks up tight. The automatic safety works smoothly. The wood finish is in fully intact condition and pleasing to the eye. The rust blued barrels would rate a 98% condition. The color cased finish is faded on the receiver. This is a very nice condition A. H. Fox Shotgun that will fit well for the collector as well as the shooter. Price:$5500
BROWNING SUPERPOSED 12 GA SUPERLITE OU SHOTGUN: MADE IN BELGIUM IN 1967. FIRST YEAR OF THE SUPERLITES. BARRELS ARE 26 INCHES WITH A SOLID RIB AND CHOKED I.C. AND MOD. 98% CONDITION. Price:$3,000
Metal Condition: EXCELLENT
Wood Condition: EXCELLENT
Bore Condition: EXCELLENT
LOP: 14 1/4
Weight: 6.7 PDS
PARKER BROS, SXS, VH, 12 GA: 1 1/2 Frame, 28”, IM& F, DT, Capped Pistol Grip, Splinter Forearm, Matted Concave Rib, Scroll Border Engraving, Casehardened Receiver , Pad, sn 219xxx, A nice all original gun with lots of casecolors and nice modern dimensions, Dimensions 1 1/2 x 2 3/8 x 14 1/4 with 0 cast, Weight 7#3oz, ID 3439, EXC. Condition. Price:$2495
I’ve always loved Ithaca’s Flues-grade SxSs. I don’t what it is about them, but every I see one, I get that urge to buy it — especially when I see one as nice as this.
The Flues was introduced in 1908 to 1926 when it was replaced by the NID. Ithaca made a ton of them in that period — 223,000 — and it was certainly one of the most popular side-by-sides ever made in America.
Today, ones like this are great little grouse guns. Just be sure you shoot them with lightweight, low pressure shells.
ITHACA 16 GA SIDE x SIDE FLUES MODEL, CASED – EXCELLENT: This is a very unusual gun, in what I believe to be a factory fitted hard case from the period of manufacture – even though it does not have a factory label inside. This so called Flues Model Ithaca side by side is a 1&1/2 grade and so marked. Gun has 28 inch barrels with modified and full chokes, and plain extractors. Barrels are like new in and out except for one small spot on the left barrel at breech which appears to be a rub mark from the case. Forearm is likewise like new. Factory engraved receiver has just about all the case color with the exception of one small spot of pitting on top of the receiver to the right of the front of the toplever – hardly noticeable. Stock finish is original and excellent with slight bubbling – perhaps caused by heat in storage. Could easily be hand rubbed out to a wonderful finish – ditto for the forearm which has all the finish presently. This gun and its wonderful case have definitely been in storage for many, many years and that is the reason it has most all of the original rust blue and vivid case colors. Even has the original Ithaca hard rubber buttplate. Priced to sell quickly. Shipping will be $50.00 because of the weight of the hard case. Price:$1,295
Model: Flues Grade 1&1/2 Serial Number: 300682 Caliber: 16 Ga Ejectors: no Condition: excellent Metal Condition: excellent Wood Condition: excellent Bore Condition: excellent Barrels: 28 inch Action: side x side Triggers: double
Gauge: 16 Ga Stock: Standard Fore End: excellent Butt Pad: excellent LOP: 14.0 Rib: flat/checkered Finish: blue/cc Chokes: no Choke Left: full Choke Right: modified
Flli. Piotti — Model BSEE Boxlock Ejector — 12 Gauge, 2 3/4″ Chambers: 28″ SxS chopper-lump barrels with smooth concave rib choked improved cylinder & modified. 14 1/4″pull from front trigger to checkered wood butt. 1 1/2″ – 2 3/8″ drop. 1/4″ cast-off. Dark, oil-finished, highly figured Turkish walnut with Anson-pushbutton-release splinter forend, flat sidepanels, diamond-section straight English grip, and fine classic point-pattern checkering. Scalloped, casehardened receiver with manual top tang safety, SAFE inlaid in gold, and beaded-edge triggerguard, fine English rose & scroll engraved and with maker’s name inlaid in gold on both sides of the receiver, signed Granetti. Weight: 6lbs, 8oz. Built 2000. Retaining 99%+blue and 99% casehardening colors. Tight, with mirror-bright bores and ejectors in perfect time. Price:$12,950.
HOLLAND & HOLLAND 500 3″ BPE- UNDERLEVER REBOUNDING HAMMER- EXC BORES- 28″ STEEL Bbls.- EXC. WOOD- ORIG. BLACK & OIL FINISH- ACCURATE: #5891, Holland & Holland, 98 New Bond Street, London; Henry Jones Double Screw-Grip Underlever Rebounding Hammer Double Rifle Made in 1880 in a 500 3″ Black Powder Express with 28″ Steel Barrels with a full length rib with 1 standing & 2 folding rear sights, Percussion style fences, Wedge forend attachment, The frame engraved “Charge 4 1/4 Drams Case 3 Inches”, 14 5/8″ L.O.P. over a checkered horn buttplate, 9 lbs. 2 oz., Horn grip cap, Sling eyes, 85% coverage of period scroll engraving, Both the forend and buttstock are very solid in every detail and every respect, Excellent wood with great color and contrast, The gun remains with original finish and the barrels retain their original blacking at 60%, Original oil finish at 80%, Original checkering at 90%, The screw heads remain excellent, The striker holes have no primer burn, Both bores are very close to excellent plus with solid grooves & lands and without any pits and have almost no surface blemishes. It is cased in a vintage brass cornered trunk that also remains in very nice shape. This is a very stout classic BPE double that has a lot of life to go and completely ready for the 21st century. The records loading and shooting go with the gun based on several loads using nitro for black that shot 2 1/2″ groups at 60 yards and dead on to point of aim. About 50 loaded rounds go with the gun. This is another first rate quality, style, grace, workmanship, handling and H&H romantic from a great period at the pinnacle of sporting guns in the last years of the 19th century. Price:$12,900
ITHACA, FLUES, GRADE 5, 12 GAUGE. TWO SETS OF BARRELS: 30″ FULL & FULL (MARKED 4 & 4), VERY GOOD BLUE, MIRROR BORES, TWIN IVORY SIGHTS, AUTOMATIC EJECTORS – 26″ CYLINDER AND MODIFIED (MARKED 0 & 2), VERY GOOD BLUE, MIRROR BORES, TWIN IVORY SIGHTS, AUTOMATIC EJECTORS. BOTH HAVE SPLINTER FOREARMS. GORGEOUS ENGRAVING, DEEP RELIEF CUT SCROLL AND FLOWERS, INTRICATE BORDERS. RIGHT SIDE HAS A WHITE GOLD QUAIL INLAY, LEFT SIDE A WHITE GOLD STANDING PHEASANT, EAGLE WITH WINGS SPREAD ON FLOORPLATE. ALL SCREW HEADS NICELY ENGRAVED. PISTOL GRIP STOCK, HIGHLY FIGURED WALNUT WITH FLEUR DI LIS PATTERN, EXTREMELY FINE CHECKERING, GOLD SHIELD INLAY, SILVERS SOLID PAD. AN OUTSTANDING GUN ENGRAVED BY BILL MCGRAW, ITHACA’S TOP ENGRAVER. BUILT IN 1922, ALL MATCHING SERIAL NUMBERS, ALL ORIGINAL FINISH. A RARE SET IN VERY PLEASING ORIGINAL CONDITION. DIMENSIONS: 1 1/2″ X 2 1/2″ X 14″, WEIGHT WITH 26″ BARRELS 7 POUNDS 4 OUNCES, WITH 30″ BARRELS 7 POUNDS 10 OUNCES. BOTH SETS RING, GUN IS TIGHT ON FACE WITH EITHER SET. PRICE: $6500
20GA FERLACH AUSTRIA VINZ URBAS SxS SHOTGUN, GAME ENGRAVED: Seldom found 20 Austrian double gun. Photos tell the story. Handels as good as it looks. Diamond grip, Game engraved, Horn drop points and butt plate. Price:$3495 Bore: 20 GA Chambers: 65MM Condition: EXCELLENT Metal Condition: EXCELLENT Wood Condition: EXCELLENT Bore Condition: EXCELLENT Triggers: 2 Stock Comb: 1 5/16 Stock Heel: 2 1/4 LOP: 14 7/8IN Weight: 5.8LBS Manufacture Date: 1946 Choke Left: FULL Choke Right: FULL Minimum Wall Thickness Left: .023 BORE .622 Minimum Wall Thickness Right: .027 BORE .622
BERETTA – RARE – Model 427 – 12ga – 28″ SK / IC – Hand Engraved Side Plates: 1981 – Beretta Model 427 – 12ga, 28″, SK / IC (.007 / .011), Raised Solid Rib, Ejectors, Double Triggers, Pistol Grip, Splinter Forearm, LOP 14-3/4″ Over a Leather Covered Pad, Drop 1-3/8″ to 2-3/8″, Weight 6 lbs. 14 oz. LOP will go 14-3/8″ with a Standard 1 inch pad. RARE! The 427 was never imported to the U.S. It is the predecessor to the Model 627EL. Previous owner opened the chokes and used the gun for SxS Sporting Clays. Price:$2,950
W. & C. Scott “Victoria” grade SxS 16g hammergun in fantastic condition! Exquisite engraving and the Damascus pattern is fantastic. What else can I say. Well, I forgot to mention the stunning craftsmanship and hammers of the highest quality while the action has over 50% original case color remaining. Need I say more! I love this 16g. hammer gun. Price:$6,200
Ithaca Grade 4E 16 Gauge SxS Shotgun. FLUES, 97% FACTORY CASE COLOR, NICE! Year 1920, 16 Gauge, 7lbs 4oz. This gun, sn330025 built in 1920 is a great example, with 97% vivid factory case color, 92% factory barrel blue, 98% factory trigger guard blue, and near new highly figured factory finished wood with beautiful flor-de-lis checkering. This is a HIGH CONDITION FACTORY ORIGINAL GUN. Even the jewelling at the breech face is still evident. The only thing that seems to be altered since the gun left the factory are the chokes, as the gun is stamped “4 & 4″ which would indicate F/F chokes. The 28” barrels are presently choked IC/M (.007/.017) with their double ivory beads and mirror bores. This is a gun for heavy work, with minimum wall thickness of 36 thousandths and weighing 7 1/4lbs. What a great sporting clays gun or pheasant gun for heavy loads! Engraved by the famous Joseph Loy, with his trademark signature, the gun is near new in all ways, including being tight on breech face and hinge pin like a new gun. This is a single trigger gun that still has the ornate factory butt plate and great stock dimensions. A great investment in an American treasure. Price:$5,250
MERKEL MODEL 220 OVER UNDER DOUBLE RIFLE 9.3X74R: 26″ BARREL WITH 1/4 RIB SIGHT AND CLAW MOUNTS WITH NO RINGS DOUBLE SET TRIGGER EJECTORS 3 PIECE FOREARM PISTOL GRIP EXCELLENT CONDITION WITH LIGHT HANDLING MARKS 8LBS 4 OZ X 14 LOP. Price: $4,950
Parker GH 12 – Damascus, Collector Quality: Parker GH, 12 Gauge. Serial No. 56625, circa 1889, It has 30″ Damascus steel barrels. The stock is PG, choked, RH Mod., LH Full. LOP is 14″, DAH 2.5″.Weight 7.5 lbs. Rare No. 1 frame.
Condition: 98% case colors, sharp engraving, screws are indexed correctly and doesn’t appear to have been dissaembled . The barrel pattern and finish are fine with some wear. I believe is has the original wood finish and checkering. The wood is proud of the receiver and the checkering has appropriate wear from carrying.The bores are smooth and clear. An orginal Parker canvas gun case and a rosewood cleaning rod are included with the gun. The PGCA Letter is included. This is one of the nicest 12 gauge Parkers I’ve owned. It points and shoots exceptionally well. A nice piece for the trap range or the man cave. Price:$3,995
Ithaca Flues Grade 4 SXS 20 GA, 28″: Action retains most of CCH, some areas worn. Engraving is sharp and distinct, a couple of scratches on either side of receiver. Barrel bluing very good with some slight handling marks. Price: $8,499.88
Stock: Fancy walnut with Fleur De Lis checkering
Stock Dimensions: LOP 14″ and 13 1/4″, neutral cast.
Fore End: Fancy walnut with checkering and ebony tip.
Butt Pad: Factory hard black plate.
Weight: 5 lbs 13 oz.
Chokes: Left is modified, right is 1/4 choke.
EARLY FRANCOTTE 12 GAUGE DOUBLE EJECTOR GUN: 12 gauge, 26″ damascus steel barrels, auto ejecgtors, beautiful scroll engraved sideplates and relief engraved fences. Double triggers, top lever, double underlocking lugs with Greener type third bite. Bores measure .729″ both barrels with walls over .030″ Chokes: R: .003″ L: .033″ Weight: 6lbs 7oz. Stock measures Comb: 1 1/2″ Heel: 2″ LOP: 14 1/2″ over a thin English hardrubber pad. The barrels retain all of the beautiful damascus pattern, The action showing lovely subdued case colors. Mint bores, excellent checkering and varnish. This would make a perfect bird gun. Price:$5,950
Defourny High Quality BLE SXS 16 GA: Price $3,900.00
Barrel Length: 27″
Chokes: M, IM
Trigger: DT (Double)
Stock: Straight Grip
Foream: Splinter Forearm
Rib: Matted Concave Rib
Receiver Finish: Casehardened Receiver
Engraving Type: Ornamental Scroll Engraving
Other Options: Checkered butt, Silver oval
Condition: EXC. Plus Condition
Weight: 5lb 10oz
Dimensions: 1 1/2 x 2 1/8 x 14 3/4 with 1/2 cast off. 2 3/4 chambers
Other Details This is a high quality gun with original 2 3/4″ chambers. It would make an outstanding prairie bird or Chukar gun. Price: $3,900
Shotgun type: SxS Action: Boxlock Ejectors: No Trigger: Double
Barrel info: Gauge: 12 ga Chamber: 3 ” Length: 30 ” Chokes: Full Mod Rib type: Flat File Cut Grip: Rounded Pistol Grip Forend: Checkered
Lop: 14 1/2 ” Type of butt: Factory Drop comb: 1 5/8 ” Drop heel: 1 7/8 ” Cast amount: 0 ” Weight: 7 lbs, 8 oz
Manufactured in: England Manufacture Year: Finish: Case Colored Overall condition: Very Good Stock condition: Very Good Metal condition: Very Good Stock: Original finish Metal: Original finish Comments : Nice clean gun, well taken care of.
JP SAUER 12 GAUGE MADE IN 1939 – GRADE VIIIE – WITH SPECIAL ENGRAVING – AUTO EJECTORS: Here is a JP Sauer 12 gauge made in Suhl with upgraded engraving. Pre-war quality. Special engraving – lovely Fox with rabbit scene on floorplate. Original condition thoughout. Right bore at .723 with 10/1000 choke (IC). Left bore also at .723 with 40/1000 choke (Full). Chambers are 2 3/4″. Barrels are 28 1/2″. Auto ejectors. Sideclips. Auto safety. Cocking indicators. Buttplate with engraved and charcoil blued screws. Double underbite with Greener style cross bolt. Weight of gun is 6 LBS 12 7/8″ OZ. Shipping is $40. Stock dimensions: LOP – 14 1/4″, Drop at Comb – 1 5/8″, Drop at Heel – 2 1/2″. Price:$2,500
*What is a good gun? It’s a side-by-side or O/U shotgun or rifle that in excellent overall condition and priced fairly.
Parker DHE 28ga SxS Skeet Gun (Remington Era): A beautiful RARE 28ga DHE Skeet gun has 26in barrels skeet in /skeet out has a 00 Frame single trigger Beavertail straight english stock to a checkered butt gorgeous wood one mark otherwis mint silver oval no initials 98% easy case colors and blue. Price:$49,000
BERETTA – SO5 / SO3EELL – Hand Detachable Locks – Checkered Butt – Like New: 1970 – 12ga, 26″, IC / IC (.008 / .011), LOP 14-9/16″, Drop 1-7/16 to 2-3/8, Neutral Cast, Weight 6 lbs. 6 oz. 100% Coverage – Hand Engraved. Hand Detachable Sidelock. Gold Crown Inlay. Pierced Top Lever. Hand Filed Rib. Ivory Sights. Single Selective Trigger. Checkered Butt. Excellent weight and chokes for a 12ga Upland Game Gun. Condition is “Like New.” Price:$8,500
LC SMITH Model 5E SXS 12 GA: Serial #205881, 30″ bbls, F&F, 2 1/2″ chambers, Hunter one trigger, Straight Grip, Splinter Forearm, Matted Concave Rib, Casehardened Receiver, Game Scene Cameos Engraving, Vintage Hawkins pad, EXC. Condition, 7#15oz, 1 1/2″ x 2 5/8″ x 14″ with 1/8 cast off. This is a high condition original gun. Price $8,000
A. H. Fox, A Grade, 20 Gauge, Side-by-Side – Gorgeous: 26″ BARRELS, FULL & MODIFIED, 99% BRIGHT BLUE, MIRROR BORES, TWIN IVORY SIGHTS. ATTRACTIVE DEEP CUT ENGRAVING, SOME BOLD VIVID CASE COLOR. ROUND KNOB GRIP STOCK, BEAVERTAIL FOREARM, ABOUT PERFECT WOOD AND CHECKERING, 100% TRIGGER GUARD BLUE. GREAT DIMENSIONS 1 1/2″ X 2 3/8″ X 14″, 6 POUNDS 2 OUNCES. GORGEOUS LITTLE FOX MADE IN 1922. Price: $6,500
ITHACA 1916 FLUES HAMMERLESS 4E GRADE 12GA. 3″ SHOTGUN 98% PLUS ORIGINAL CONDITION: ITHACA 1916 FLUES 4E GRADE HAMMERLESS 12GA. SHOTGUN,S/N 2719XX. 28″ SOLID RIB BARRELS WITH EXCELLENT BORES AND 2 IVORY BEADS.3″ CHAMBERS,CHOKED MODIFIED (.017) CONSTRICTION AND IMPROVED CYLINDER (.007) CONSTRICTION.99% ORIGINAL BARREL BLUE.FIGURED AMERICAN WALNUT WITH BEAUTIFUL ORIGINAL FLUE DE LEA CHECKERING WITH BLACK TIP FOREARM,PISTOL GRIP CAP AND GOLD SHIELD.L.O.P. IS 14 1/2″ OVER SOLID RUBBER PAD,D.A.H. IS 2 7/8″ AND D.A.C. IS 1 7/8″ WITH NEUTRAL CAST.GUN WEIGHS 7 LBS. ORIGINAL GOLD DOUBLE TRIGGERS WITHOUT ANY WEAR.GUN LOOKS TO HAVE BEEN FIRED EXTREMELY LITTLE.ENGRAVED RECEIVER WITH 85% PLUS ORIGINAL VIVID CASE COLOR REMAINING,HAS DOG AND BIRD SCENES.A SUPER ORIGINAL CONDITION 4E 1916 12GA. SHOTGUN. Price:$4,250
W.W. GREENER BEST DOUBLE RIFLE 450-400 2 3/8: MADE 1888 26″ DAMASCUS BARRELS WITH EJECTORS AND PERFECT BORES DOUBLE TRIGGER PISTOL GRIP APPEARS TO BE ORIGINAL CONDITION WITH TRACES OF CASE COLORS AND MAKERS CASE 8LBS 1 OZ X 14 1/8. Price: $15,000
Winchester Model 21 Shotgun – 12 Ga. – 30 in. Barrels – Circa 1947: Original condition. 2 3/4″ chambers with 30″ barrels. Right is marked mod, left is marked full. It has automatic ejectors, a single selective trigger, a pistol grip with high grade wood and a Beavertail forearm. The forearm is missing a screw on the bottom and has a very slight crack in the wood towards the rear of the forearm. Very little blueing loss and the bore is bright and shiny. The wood has light usage marks. Mechanically perfect. Shoots fine. The serial number indicates it is Circa 1947. Price: $3,299
Checkered walnut round knob. Lightly engraved case colored receiver.
LOP 14 inches.
Checkered walnut Splinter style with an ebony tip.
Checkered black plate.
9 lbs. 6 oz.
Metal front bead.
Fixed Cylinder both barrels.
ITHACA FLUES FIELD GRADE IN 20 GAUGE – ORIGINAL CONDITION: Here is a excellent condition Ithaca Flues Field Grade in 20 gauge. Original condition thoughout. Damascus barrels are 28″ with mirror bores. Right bore measures at .609 with 21/1000 choke (full) while left is .610 with 22/1000 choke (full). Chambers are 2 3/4″. Extractors. All serial numbers match. Ithaca hard butt plate. Gun is onface with top lever right of center. Weight of gun is 5 LBS 11 1/8 OZ. Shipping is $40. LOP – 14 1/4″ Drop at Comb – 1 5/8″ Drop at Heel – 2 3/4″. Price:$895
Ithaca’s Flues-model shotguns are far from the pretty side-by-sides I’ve ever seen. Clunky and as sleek as a shoe box, they don’t have the snakey look of a Fox or classic proportions of a Parker. But there is something about the Flues that I really like. Check out this 3E Flues you see her to see what I mean. With its damascus barrels, clouds of original color case hardening, and great engraving, it’s a handsome gun and one I would be proud to call my own.
Ithaca’s introduced their Flues model in 1908 as an update to their previous Minier-model side by sides. Ithaca made a ton of Flues — about 223,000 in all – before the design was replaced by the Ithaca NID.
ITHACA 3E FLUES DAMASCUS EJECTOR 12 GAUGE: #1906XX 30″ FULL AND FULL 2 3/4 DAMASCUS BARRELS DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP EXCELLENT CONDITION 7LBS 15 OZ X 2 1/2 X 1 5/8 X 14 Price:$2,750
I’ve seen a lot of Flues shotguns, but this is the first one I’ve seen like this. It’s a Grade 2 Ithaca Flues. The seller claims it’s a Pigeon Gun.
All I can say is “Perhaps”. With the its 32″ barrels, Full X Full chokes, and high, straight-gripped stock, I can’t imagine what else its owner was going to do with it – shoot ducks and geese? Maybe.
Ithaca’s Flues model SxS shotguns were introduced in 1908 and made until 1926. In all, about 223,000 of them were built – making the Flues one of the most popular double barrel shotguns ever made in America.
A lot of side-by-side fans don’t know this, but up until World War 2, the Ithaca Gun Co. was one of the most successful shotguns makers in the US , and probably in the world. The company made several different models of side-by-sides up until then, and the Flues was one of their most popular.
Introduced in 1908 and made until 1926 (when it was replaced by the NID)m Ithaca made 223,000+ Flues shotguns. Of those, the one you see here has to be one of the rarest. Not only is it a graded 20 gauge, but it also has ejectors, 30″ barrel, and a ton of original condition.
It’s up for auction now on Gunbroker.com and the listing ends on 11/12/2013 @ 12:34:10 PM ET. You probably won’t see another one like it again, so if you like it, bid on it now. Here’s more about it from the seller:
Ithaca Flues Grade 3E 20 gauge. A great example of early Ithaca engraving. Serial number has this gun being manufactured in 1920. 30″ barrels, 2 1/2″ chambers, ejectors and it’s choked tight mod/tight mod with FULLY TAPERED CHOKES FROM THE FACTORY!!! The right barrel measures .605 with a .17 (.588) constriction at choke. The left barrel measures .605 with a .16 (.589)constriction at choke. The wood has beautiful figure, the case color is approximately 70%-75% intact and the bluing is 97%. The LOP is 14 1/8″. Drop @ Comb is 1 1/2″ and drop @ heel is 2 3/4″.
The Ithaca Gun Co. used to be one of the biggest gunmakers in America. Up until the WW2, they turned out more SxS shotguns than any other maker in this country. The Flues model double was the company biggest seller. From 1908 to 1926, Ithaca made 223,000 of them (Parker made 95,000 side-by-sides in the same period.)
Ithaca 4E Flues 12 ga. SxS: A truly magnificent, 100% original 4E. 32” full and full barrels with twin ivory beads. Double triggers. Retaining close to 90% original case colors and 98% blue. The straight grip buttstock is dramatically figured with a “sunburst” of grain. 13 5/8” LOP, 1 ½” DAC & 2 ¼” DAH. Even the original pad in excellent condition. 9 lbs. 3 oz.
Before the Flues, Ithaca made a Lewis model, and before that gun was their Crass model double barrel.
CHARLES DALY DIAMOND REGENT 16 GAUGE SxS: 28″ IC AND FULL 2 3/4 DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION WITH LIGHT HANDLING MARKS 5LB 13 OZ X 2 3/4 X 1 7/16 X 14. Price: $32,500.00
LC Smith Trap Grade 16 Gauge, Double Barrel Shotgun: 28” bbls, 2 ½” chambers, Full & Fuller, Hunter One trigger, some dings in wood, bright bores, Finish and edge wear; rubs; case coloring remaining on receiver 14 LOP; 1 1/2 DAC; 2 1/8 DAH, Grooved composition plate butt, 6 lbs 9 ozs. Price: $2,999
ITHACA 12 Gauge Flues Double Barrel Hammerless Shotgun:32″ bbls choked full and mod. Marked on the receiver is “2”. Has ejectors and double triggers. Ejectors function well. Excl bores. Wood is fine cond with sharp checkering. Stock measures 14″ to the end of the orig hard rubber buttplate. Gun is in fine cond with 97-98% bright orig blue. Receiver is nicely engraved with 75% case colors turning nickel color on the bottom. Bright blue on trigger guard. Fine old gun. Price: $ 1,875.
CHURCHILL GUMAKERS LTD, SXS, Premier Model , 12 GA, 2 3/4″: 28”, M& IM, DT, Straight Grip, Splinter Forearm, Churchill Rib, Premier pattern Fine Scroll Engraving, Casehardened Receiver, Autosafety, Checkered Butt, Gold Oval, Makers Leather VC Case w/Label, “Finest Quality” Original 2 3/4″ 3 1/4 ton proofs, Dimensions 1 1/2 x 2 1/4 x 14 5/8 with 1/4 cast off, Weight 6#4oz, A London “Best” in new condition.ID 3153, Near PERFECT Condition. Price: $35,000
ARRIZABALAGA, SXS, Fine Scroll, .410, 28”: M& F, DT, Straight Grip, Splinter Forearm, Smooth Concave Rib, Fine Scroll & Rosette Engraving, Casehardened Receiver with , Articulated Trigger, Autosafety, Checkered Butt, Gold Oval, H&H Hand-Detachable Locks, Gold Line Cocking Indicators, Drop points, Dimensions 1 1/2″ x 2 1/3″ x 14 3/4″ with 0 cast, Weight 5# 12oz, 3″ chambers, ID 3148, NEW but has been test fired. Price: $17500
LEFEVER D GRADE 12GA Double Barrel ANTIQUE SHOTGUN: 1890 MFG DATE, 30″ FINE DAMASCUS BBLS, EXCELLENT PATTERN, GAME SCENE AND SCROLL ENGRAVED, 2 5/8, CHOKED MOD/IM, STD GAME RIB, EXTRACTORS, DBL TRIGGERS, GORGEOUS HIGHLY FIGURED WALNUT, PISTOL/SPLINTER, LOP 14 7/8 TO CK BUTT, 1 11/16, 2 1/2, 7LBS 12OZ, ACTION TIGHT ON FACE, BORES & WOOD ARE EXCELLENT, MARK LARSON EXTENSION BEAUTIFULLY DONE. Price: $3,950
ITHACA FIELD GRADE FLUES 16 GAUGE: 26″ CYLINDER AND IC 2 3/4 CHAMBERS DOUBLE TRIGGER EXTRACTOR SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP LIKE NEW ORIGINAL CONDITION 6LB 6 OZ X 3 X 2 X 14 1/8. Price: $2,950.00
BERETTA – – 686 Onyx – 20ga – 26-1/2″ – Mobilchoke – – English Stock: 1988 – Beretta 686 Onyx – 20ga, 26-1/2″, 3″, Mobilchoke, English Stock, LOP 14-1/2″ Factory 1/2″ Pad, Drop 1-1/2″ to 2-1/4″, Weight 5 lbs. 15 oz. Metal about 97%. Wood about 95%. No cracks, but there are a couple of deep dings in the bottom near the heel of the stock. Can’t really see them unless you are looking right at the bottom of the stock. Includes only the two Mobilchokes in the gun – Modified and Improved Cylinder. Price: $1,575.00
If classic American doubles are your thing, here are two nice ones to check out. This first shotgun is a 12 gauge L.C. Smith No. 2. According the L.C. Smith Collector’s Association, “The No. 2 grade was nicely finished and engraved… and was said to be “just the kind for rough usage.” The Hunter Arms Company made 10,814 of them in 12 gauge, and the twelves are very common on the used market.
I’ve owned a few No. 2s over the years — a 12 gauge and two or three 16s. They were all solid, reliable shotguns. I still own one of the 16s — a real early one that’s a nice grouse gun. There’s another No. 2 that I’ve always wanted: a 16 gauge with a straight grip and double triggers. If you have one and you want to sell, drop me note. I would love to buy it.
Here’s more about the one pictured:
LC Smith Grade 2 – 12 GAUGE with ejectors and chain damascus barrels: Nicely figured stock with sharp checkering. Gun is tight on face. Ejectors are perfectly timed. Three position safety. Bores are excellent with right at .732 and 22/1000 choke (Imp Mod) and left at 31/1000 choke (full). Barrel length is 30″. Chambers are 2 3/4″. Weight of gun is 7 LBS 1/2 OZ. LOP – 14″. Drop at Heel – 2 3/8″. Price: $2,200
The next double is a 20g Ithaca Flues Grade 3. The Ithaca Flues was one of the country’s most popular doubles. But even though the company made 223,000 of them from 1908 to 1926, they didn’t make a whole lot of 20 gauge. They made even fewer of them in Grade 3 with 30′ barrels, so it’s safe to say that this is one very rare American side-by-side:
Fantastic Ithaca Flues 20 gauge Grade 3E — 30″ barrels: Rare gun, with ejectors. Beautiful original condition, tight as the day it was built. 80% original color, 95% barrel blue and varnish. Full figured wood with perfect original butt place. Splinter forend with push-button release. Long, 30” barrels. Perfect upland gun. 14 ¼” x 1 ¾” X 2 7/8”. Price: $5,500.00
That’s the question I hear all the time. When people ask me, I usually give them a range. That’s the best I can do. It’s also why auctions are so nice. When the hammer falls, you know what that item is worth (at least at that moment, with those buyers present).
Here’s a chance to see what a real nice 16 gauge Ithaca Flues is worth. Reliable and rugged, the Flues-model side-by-side was Ithaca’s most popular double. From 1908-1926 they made 200,000+ of them, making the Flues one these most popular side-by-side shotguns ever made in America.
I’m drawn to impractical things like hammer guns, black-powder shotgun shells, and doubles with damascus barrels. It’s also why I like Ithaca’s Flues side-by-sides, particularly this 16 gauge, Grade 2E (already sold, btw).
Even though Ithaca’s Flues was never America’s sexiest shotgun, it was one of the country’s most popular. From when it was introduced in 1908 to 1926 when it was replaced by the NID, Ithaca made 223,000 of these shotguns. (Parker made 95,000 side-by-sides in the same period.)
An American gunsmith named Emil Flues came up with the design and Ithaca turned it into a simple, reliable double available at a price point well below other quality shotguns available at the time. Here’s a bit more about the gun from Michae; McIntosh’s book Best Guns (you can read more here in Michael’s book Best Guns).
Today, the Flues is one of the more affordable of the classic American doubles. There are a lot of them out there–especially 12 gauge Field models–and most of them are available for short money. The smaller gauges —16g, 20g & 28g— are also common, but the prices climb as the bore size shrinks. There are also a number of grade above Field, and as you go up in these, the price you’ll pay follows.