Krider | Dogs and Doubles

See this week’s 5 doubles you don’t want to miss …

January 9, 2022 by Gregg

Exceptionally rare and near mint Lightweight Parker CHE 12ga side-by-side game gun with ventilated rib – Straight stocked w/ double triggers – a true rarity: Offered here is an exceptional Parker Game Gun. Very rare gun made in 1927 on a #1 Frame, this Parker CHE Grade with 28″ Acme Steel barrels that have factory original Ventilated rib. Made with splinter forend, nickel plated double triggers, straight grip buttstock with very fine French Walnut, which terminates with an older Silvers type pad. The gun matches the serialization book exactly as found and is engraved in typical CHE Grade pattern with large flying goose on the trigger plate. Known as an option “21” in the Parker Gun Identification and Serialization book, this is an exceptionally rare gun. The barrels retain more than 98% original blue. The frame retains virtually all of its bold original case color. The trigger guard retains more than 95% of its original blue with some minor flaking. Stocks are excellent to near mint with nearly all of their original hand rubbed finish remaining with only minor handling marks. Bores are brilliant and shiny and the mechanics are crisp. The breechface shows almost no use and this is very much a near mint gun. Metal and wood finishes are guaranteed original. The ultimate Pheasant hunting Parker! Price: $21,500

Parker Reproductions DHE 12 Gauge Matched Pair of SxS Shotguns: 28″ Barrels Marked IC & Modified, Both Right Barrel .006 & Left Barrel .012, 2 3/4″ & 3″ Chambers, Single Selective Triggers, Splinter Forends, English Grips, 14 1/4″ Length of pull, Drop 1 1/4″- 2 1/8″, Special Ordered Pair, A1 Special engraved Barrel Wedges, Gold Line Border, Both Shotguns show some light field use, Makers Cases, Factory Letter. Price: $14,500

Ithaca Flues Grade 4e SxS 28 ga: We have a very hard to find grade 4 Flues in 28 ga , the gun was built in 1915 it features 26” barrels that are choked imp/cyl…..imp/mod , ejectors that are in time, pistol grip stock , there are no cracks in the wood , the metal is very good with no rust or bulges , there is slight pitting in both chambers LOP is 13 3/4 to a Ithaca hardplate , DAC 1 5/8 DAH 2 5/8 weight is 5.2. Price: $13,500

PHILADELPHIA MANUFACTURED GUN MARKED “KRIDER” 8 GAUGE: 8 gauge barrels measure about 40 inches. Gun is in beautiful condition. Case hardening is quite vivid. Barrels retain most all of the bright Damascus pattern. No signs of abuse. Wood is excellent with nice checkering and steel buttplate. Barrels are held by 2 keyed slots. This beautiful lengthy shotgun weighs just under 13 pounds. Price: $8,500.

BROWNING SUPERLITE OU 20 GAUGE SHOTGUN — BROWNING SUPERLIGHT OU 20 GAUGE SHOTGUN

BROWNING SUPERLIGHT OU 20 GAUGE SHOTGUN: 1984 BELGUIM MADE Barrels: 26.5 BARREL Gauge: 20 GA Finish: BLUE Price: $6,600.99

Late auction alert: Krider, Greener, Parker, Browning, Darne, & more…

August 2, 2013August 2, 2013 by Gregg

Carol Watson’s Orange Coast Auctions in Irvine, CA, is having a big gun auction this weekend, starting tomorrow, 8/3 @ 10am, Pacific. There are a lot of shotguns coming up. Here are a few of the doubles that caught my eye:

John Krider, Phila. 8 Ga. Perc. Market Double Barrel Shotgun: — John Krider, Phila. 8 Ga. Perc. Market Double Barrel Shotgun

John Krider, Phila. 8 Ga. Perc. Market Shotgun: Philadelphia made 8 Ga. Percussion Double Barrel Market Shotgun, by John Krider, 28” barrels, sideplates, hammer, triggerguard and buttplate are lightly engraved and marked ”John Krider”; barrel flat engraved ”Philadelphia”. Condition is about fine with trace case colors to lockplate and hammers. Barrels have toned brown. Checkering shows only the slightest flattening with a very small repair at toe of stock. Good functioning action, good bores, with beautiful original hickory ramrod. Estimate: $8,000-$10,000.

Remington Grade 2 Model 1878 SxS Double Barrel Shotgun

Remington Grade 2 Model 1878 SxS Shotgun: Heavy Duck Side-by-Side Shotgun, #6033, 10 ga., 32” damascus barrels, checkered stock and forend, steel buttplate, case hardened frame, hammers and thumb lever. Mfg’d 1878-1882. Condition is very good retaining approx. 20%-30% thinning and toning brown to barrels, 50% thinning and silvering case colors to frame, hammer and lever. Stock with slight scuffs and dings, minor flattening to checks at pistol grip and somewhat more moderate to forend. Missing the head of left hammer screw. Action is crisp, bores are bright. Estimate : $800-$1,200.

12 gauge Parker Bros. G Grade SxS Double Barrel Shotgun

Parker G Grade SxS Shotgun: #131065, 12 ga., 28” fine damascus barrels, lightly engraved case hardened frame, select figured American pistol-grip checkered stock, Parker Bros. hard rubber checkered butt pad, double trigger with extractors. Mfg’d 1904. Condition is fine to near excellent. Barrel shows just minor thinning to damascus pattern, with minor thinning to case color on frame at balance point. Stock shows minor flattening to checks, somewhat more pronounced on forend, with minor impressions. Action is crisp, bores are right. Estimate: $1,500-$2,000.

Lot # 217 W.W. Greener ''The Trapgun'' SxS Shotgun — Lot # 217 W.W. Greener ”The Trapgun” SxS Shotgun

W.W. Greener ”The Trapgun” SxS Shotgun: #35004, 12 ga., 27-3/4” damascus barrels with unchoked bores, smooth game rib, exposed hammers, double trigger, with Prince of Wales pistol-grip checkered walnut stock and large heavy beavertail forend. Top of barrels marked ”W.W. Greener THE TRAPGUN. 68 Haymarket, London”. Mfg’d approx. 1886. Condition is fine with light thinning and silvering to damascene patterned barrels. Frame and sidelocks retain approx. 75% original finish. Stocks with light scuffs and minor flattening to checks. Action is tight, bores are bright. Front bead is missing, and barrels may have been shortened. Length of pull 14”. Estimate: $1,800-$2,400.

Lot # 222 16 gauge Darne Model R-13 SxS Sliding Breech Shotgun

16 gauge Darne Model R-13 SxS Sliding Breech Shotgun: 27” blue barrels, floral engraved case hardened frame, double triggers, ejectors, straight checkered stock and horn-tipped forend, with leather sling. Condition is very good to near fine retaining approx. 92% re-blackened barrels. Case colors to frame have mostly gone silver. Stock with minor flattening, small holes to left side cheekpiece from an old cheek pad, repair at heel behind rear sling swivel, and ¼” hole just forward of triggerguard that may be original. Buttplate shows repairs and is missing lower screw. Action is crisp, bores are fine and bright. Estimate: $800-$1,200.

One-of-a-Kind Angelo Bee Exhibition Grade Engraved and 4-Color Gold Inlaid Belgian Browning Model 25: Over/Under Shotgun, #2883F69, 28 ga., 26-1/2” vent rib barrel, straight grip Exhibition Grade walnut stock with false three-piece checkered forend. Left scene depicts fighting pheasants; right scene with pintail ducks setting down, with classic Belgian scrolls and gold inlaid flora. Bottom of stock is extensively inlaid with multi-colored gold wire design and game birds. Buttstock is additionally inlaid with false sidelock type plates with large duck and pheasant motif in gold. Angelo Bee told us that it was is first foray into double border inlays in his career and this gun is from his personal collection. Condition is excellent with breathtaking designs. Estimate: $18,000-$24,000.

Massive gun alert: a 4 gauge shotgun by A. Peterman…

May 10, 2013 by Gregg

Massive 4 gauge, A. Peterman, Philadelphia, Single Barrel Waterfowl Shotgun

Yeah, that’s right – a 4 gauge. The shotgun for the manliest man.

Back in the 19th century, 4 gauges guns were used for everything from big-game in Africa to waterfowl in US and UK. The 4s came in a number chamber sizes–2 3/4″, 3″ , 3 7/8″, and 4″– and they pushed up to 4 ozs of lead. That’s a lot of shot. Today’s mag tens have 3 1/2″ chambers and push just 1 5/8oz– flabby babies.

With a 40″ barrel, this 4 gauge was definitely built for ducks, geese, and swans. It was made around 1870 by Abraham Peterman, a gunmaker/gunsmith working in Philadelphia 1850 to 1880 or so. Peterman had a shop next to John Krider – a famous American gunmaker and sporting good retailer. Krider was a big deal with prosperous clients. For Peterman must have been successful to have a free standing storefront next door. The shotgun here suggests why. Even though it’s a beast, it looks very well made. It’s in great condition, too, and the metalwork looks all original.

Here’s more about it from the seller:

A. Peterman of 151 Walnut St. Philadelphia 4 Gauge Hammer Shotgun with Damascus Barrel. The gun appears to have the original case coloring and brown finish on the barrels. The wood has had a coat of oil added at some point in time. I do not think it was sanded as the wood to metal fit is perfect. The barrel is 39.5 inches in length and the length of pull measures 13 and 3/8. The gun is in good working order and locks up tight. Price:$37,500

A 12 gauge shell loaded into a massive 4 gauge by A. Peterman, Philadelphia

Walnut & Second St, Philadelphia, Circa 1871. John Krider was on the corner, Wm. Robertson and A. Peterman were next door.

Frederick Courtenay F.C. Selous, Explorer, Hunter, with his 4 gauge percussion rifle

An “Investment” quality John Krider shotgun…

January 24, 2011 by Gregg

Hang around gunshops and auctions for a while and there’s a word you’re bound to here: Investment, as in this gun is a great investment. Whenever you hear it, be wary. A 12 gauge Krider double barrel percussion shotgun that has been a market recently is a good example of why.

John Krider was an American sporting goods maker with a shop in Philadelphia. He turned out everything from fly rods and fishing reels to top-quality shotguns and rifles. This 12 gauge Krider came on the market in March of 2008 at James Julia Auctions. As you can see, cased and in fantastic original condition, it’s almost brand new — pretty impressive for a gun that was probably made in the the 1850s. Julia’s estimate on it was $8,000-$12,000. When the hammer dropped and all the bills were paid, it cost the buyer $18,400.

Jump forward two years, head over to Amoskeag Auctions, and here is the same gun shows up again, back on the market.Check out the description — “Investment Quality.” This time, the estimate is $10,000 – $15,000 and the gun sells for $12, 075. So the seller lost $6,025 — 34% — in 2 years.

Not a very good investment.