I’ve always liked vintage Charles Daly side-by-sides, and I think they’re some of the finest boxlock shotguns ever made.
So when this 12g came up for auction on Gunbroker.com a few weeks ago, I was thrilled. But not as thrilled as some guys. This double hammered down for $6,125 — WAY than I wanted to pay for it (a far more than I thought it would bring).
Take a look at. What do you think — is it all original? Or is it totally redone? I think it’s all original, including the finish on the bbls.
This SxS was built in the 1890s, but not by anyone named Charles Daly.
Charles Daly was a businessman, not a gunmaker. He started branding guns with his name on them around 1875. At first, he used several makes in Europe. But by the late 1880s, he had settled on Heinrich A. Lindner for most of his shotguns.
Lindner was a gunmaker in Suhl, Prussia (which is now Germany). Lindner took Westley Richards brilliant Anson & Deeley shotgun action, tweaked it, and made it his own.
In its day, this gun was one of Daly’s lower-grade models. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t high quality (or inexpensive). Everything Lindner made was beautifully built. You can see that in this gun. From the proportions of the action and the stock to the shaping of the triggers and the finish on the metal, everything is well done.
When this gun was built, the shooting world was experiencing a fad for lightweight, 12-gauge shotguns. Belgian and German makers like Francotte and Lindner responded by building twelves that came in right around 6lbs.
Truly superb and rare Charles Daly “Regent” Diamond Quality 20 Bore shotgun in superb original condition: Easily the finest Charles Daly I have offered in recent memory, this particular gun made with 28″ Witten Excelsior barrels, with slender splinter forend which has a beautiful original bone tip. Casehardened action is full coverage floral and scroll engraved with beautifully detailed gold inlays on all sides. The gun has double triggers, auto ejectors, and auto safety. Incredibly well figured ball pistol grip buttstock with cheekpiece on left side and terminates with the original lined horn buttplate. It is my understanding that these guns were built for Von Legerke and Detmold of Chicago in the early 30’s. This gun is cased. The quality and condtiion of this gun cannot be overstated!!! The gun remains in superb original untouched condition with more than 80% bold original case color, 97% original barrel blue and crisp stock finish. Bores are brilliant and shiny, mechanics are crisp, and the gun is tight on face. Price:$29,500
Purdey 12 Bore – Exceptional Condition – Cased: This is an absolutely exceptional Purdey finished in 1978. I can’t imagine finding a pre-owned Purdey in higher condition. Gun is in its original case with all accessories. The gun is still in spec with all the info stated on the build/service card installed the case. Only possible alteration from new might be the pad. If you want a like new Purdey at a fraction of a new gun – look no further! Shotgun Gauge: 12 Gauge Manufacturer: Purdey Model: SLE Serial Number: 28,xxx Barrel Length: 28 Bore Info: R .731″ L .729″ Chambers: 2 3/4″ Ejectors: Yes Condition: Excellent – Plus Metal Condition: 98% Wood Condition: 98% Bore Condition: As new Barrels: 28″ Barrel Type: Steel Action: Self Opening Triggers: Double
Stock: French Walnut Stock Dimensions: 1 3/8″ x 2″ x 15 1/8″ Stock Comb: 1 3/8″ Stock Heel: 2″ Stock Cast: 1/4″ Heel – 1/2″ Toe Fore End: Splinter Butt Pad: Leather covered LOP: 15 1/8″ Rib: Game Finish: London Best Grade Weight: 6 – 10.0 oz Manufacture Date: 1972 Approx. Chokes: R .012 – L. .023 Choke Left: 65% Choke Right: 55% Engraving: Rose and Scroll Extras: Cleaning Rod 2-Piece Wood. Case: Motor Proof:Nitro: London Nitro Proof Minimum Wall Thickness Left: .034″ Minimum Wall Thickness Right: .035″ Price: $28,000.00
F.LLI POLI BEST SELF-COCKING EJECTOR HAMMER GUN 20 GA: Serial # 13718 Country of Origin Italy Barrel Length (in Inches) 28-3/4″ Choke R/U M Choke L/O IM Trigger DT (Double) Stock Configuration Straight Grip Forearm Type Splinter Forearm Rib Type Smooth Concave Rib Receiver Finish Coin Finish Engraving Type Pedretti Game Scene Cameos w/ Fine Scroll Engraving Other Options FANCY TURKISH WALNUT, RECOIL PAD, CASE Condition EXC. Plus Condition Weight 6LB 2OZ Dimensions DAC 1.5 DAH 2.375, LOP14.75 CAST OFF .375. Price:$20,000
MILLER & VAL GREISS 16 GAUGE HAMMER SHOTGUN – ANTIQUE MADE IN 1896: Made by JP Sauer in 1896. Elegant round bar action. Tight on face. Excellent bores. Original stock finish with sharp flat top checkering. No cracks to wood. Screw slots prestine. Extractors. Chambers are 2 3/4″. Right barrel measures .670 with 12/1000 choke (Mod). Left barrel is .672 with 24/1000 choke (Full). Excellent bores. Barrels are 28 3/4″. Rebounding locks. Miller & Val Greiss was a designated “Hofbuchsenmacher” which losely translates to a “gunmaker to the royal court”. Shipping is $50 and can be sent directly as local law allows. LOP is 13 15/16″. Drop at Comb is 1 9/16″. Drop at Heel at 2 5/16″. Price:$2,550
J.P. SAUER SIDELOCK EJECTOR SXS 20 GAUGE: #391XXX, 26 1/2″ IC AND MOD 2 3/4″, DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP, EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION, 6LBS X 2 9/16″ X 1 5/8″ X 14 1/2″ Price:$7,950
Parker VH 20g 26″ original…high condition: 26” solid rib barrels choke IC/F. Double triggers, automatic safety, late Parker gun. Capped pistol grip stock with 13 7/8” LOP over the dogs head butt plate, 1 5/8” DAC and 2 ½” DAH; splinter forearm. The frame is bright from carrying but there is at least 80% muted case colors, original barrel blue is excellent; trigger guard has only traces of blue. Wood varnish appears to be original and there is on small repair at the rear of the top tang. The barrels have .618” bore diameters where .615 is standard so I will assume that the bores were lightly polished by .003” with nominal wall thickness of .027”. “0” frame. So, this is a very nice, high condition VH 20…ready for upland hunting and as a great addition to your collection. Made in 1935 and is exactly as specified in the Parker Gun Id book. SN: 238463 Price:$3,650
Browning Citori Superlight 20ga In Factory Box: This Shotgun is ready for the field gun is still tight when opening but has blueing ware from carrying Also a few handeling marks and 1 scratch in the wood. Serial Number: 24148NRA33 Barrel Length: 26″ Condition: Used with finish wear Chokes: Invector. Price:$1,675
Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 OU Shotgun, 28GA, 28IN, Mobile Chokes, SST, AE: Very Nice Beretta 28GA with 28 inch mobile choke barrels that has seen little use. Comes with F, M, IC Mobile chokes with M/IC chokes installed. Nice oil-finished wood with some light handling marks on the left side of butt stock that can easily be sanded out. Bluing is perfect and bores are mirror. Weight is slightly over 6 pounds. Price: $1,595
Beautiful and rare Parker AHE Grade 12 Bore: Beautiful and high art AHE 12ga gun. Made with 30″ Acme steel barrels, straight stock, and double triggers. The gun features superb engraving with 13 animals engraved in beautiful full coverage scroll. Beautiful buttstock with thick comb. When you study a gun like this, it is easy to see why Parker Bros. sold nearly 250k shotguns in their time in business! Overall the gun is in excellent condition. The stocks have been expertly restored and retain nearly all of their hand rubbed oil finish. Barrels have been expertly restored and retain virtually all of their proper, toned blue. Action retains about 80% case color over the well defined and deep engraving. This is an extremely beautiful gun with a lot of merit. If you have been looking for a fairly priced high grade Parker, look no further. Price:$15,500
A.H. Fox AE SXS Double Trigger Ejectors 16 GA 27-15/16″ barrel: Stock has a few light handling marks but is in Excellent condition. LOP measures 14-1/4″. Drop at the heel measures 2-7/16″ and the comb measures 1-9/16″. Bore is smooth and shiny, looks excellent. The chamber wall thickness measures 5mm. Barrels look great. Both barrels are modified chokes. Gun is in excellent condition and ready for hunting. Price:$4,999.99
Ed Kettner 24-gauge SxS: This is a sweet and trim little double. Ketnner made very high quality doubles. It has just been restocked and looks great. The 24 ga.was the European ga. for European woodcock. Serial Number: 2686. Barrels: 281/4 inches. Action: extractor. Triggers: double. Stock Comb: 1 & 1/2. Stock Heel: 2 & 3/8. Stock Cast: 1/4. Fore End: semi BT. Butt Pad: plastic. LOP: 14 & 3/4 inches. Weight: 5 lbs. 7 oz.. Chokes: ic/mod. Minimum Wall Thickness Left: 30 thou. Minimum Wall Thickness Right: 30 thou. Price: $4450.
BERETTA – SxS – – 426E – 20ga 28″ – SST – Ejectors: Raised Solid Rib, Ejectors, Single Selective Trigger, LOP 14-1/4, Drop 1-1/2 to 2-1/2″, Neutral Cast, Weight 6 lbs 4 oz. Metal is Excellent 98+%. Gun is mechanically perfect – very tight with lever well right of center. Wood has been refinished, and the sharp points of the checkering was taken down. Price:$1940
PURDEY BEST QUALITY OVER UNDER PAIR 16 GAUGE KELL ENGRAVED: PURDEY SAYS MADE 1949, NOTED IN RECORDS ENGRAVED BY KELL, BOTH GUNS ARE THE SAME: 28″ SOLID RIB, CHOKED 012″ AND 032″, 2 1/2 CHAMBERS, SINGLE TRIGGER, EJECTORS, FIELD FOREARM, ENGLISH GRIP, MAKERS OAK AND LEATHER CASE, EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION, 6LBS 5 OZ, 2 1/2″ DAH, 1 5/8″ DAC, 14″ LOP FROM REAR POSITION SINGLE TRIGGER. Price:$139,500
Extremely Rare Sir Joseph Whitworth .451 Percussion Double Rifle With Hexagonal Bore, and Case: Extremely Rare Sir Joseph Whitworth Percussion Double Rifle with Hexagonal .451 Bores with case, and powder flask. Very few were produced, and it is said that no more than 50 were made in total. Possibly fewer. Whitworth’s single-shot rifles were prized by Confederate sharpshooters during the Civil War and were also used extensively in target shooting in the apex of the percussion rifle era. Parker Hale continues to market reproductions as to the Target rifle variants with the correct Hexagonal rifling. (I took a very large bull elk, quite cleanly, with one of these reproductions, before I owned this double!) Far fewer Sporting rifles were produced by Whitworth, and, again, fewer still of the double rifle variety. These double’s barrels were produced from a single piece of bar stock which Whitworth bored. A very unusual method of production, but extremely effective when done right, and Whitworth was one of England’s most renowned machinists. Hex bullets can be used of course, or, more commonly, people use .451 +/- conical bullets that simply bump up to hex shape upon firing. These are very effective hunting rifles as the bullets have great sectional density when weighing 485-500 grains or so. This provides almost the perfect combination of bullet diameter and penetration. Bullet molds are quite common in this configuration. Most users recommend a powder charge of approximately 90-95 grains of FF Black powder. This example shows honest use, but was maintained properly, and is in excellent condition overall, as is it’s original case. Mechanically and functionally excellent, and very good as to appearance is the way I would grade this example. Folding sights in 100-yard increments to 500 yards. Test targets are included showing how well this rifle’s barrels are regulated at both 50 and 100 yards, and the powder charge and bullet type used to achieve these tight groups. Bores are excellent, and show little if any frosting whatsoever. Stock shows numerous handling marks and scratches, but no cracks or splits. Stock has pistol grip cap of steel, and a silver stock oval which is not yet engraved. Rifle’s Bluing is browning on the tang, the locks and receiver, and is quite good on the buttplate. Barrels also quite good as to blue. Some Scattered scratches and handling marks in the barrel bluing. Locks and triggers work perfectly. Ramrod correct for rifle, and there is a period powder flask in the case. Weighs 9 pounds 8 ounces, and balances well. The pictures tell the story, but feel free to contact me with questions. Try to find another! 🙂 For those with genuine interest, more photos can be supplied. A truly special rifle for the percussion enthusiast. Thanks for looking! Price: $19,999
PRUSSIAN CHARLES DALY – TIME CAPSULE CONDITION – MADE IN 1932 – EJECTORS – 30″ BARRELS: Here is a Prussian Charles Daly 12 gauge made in 1932 with exceptional condition. Superior Quality with Krupp Steel Barrels. Original condition throughout. Strong case colors. Detailed scroll engraving. Scalloped action. Cocking indicators. Ejectors. Arcaded fences. Double underbite with a Greener Style Hidden Third Fastener. Auto safety. Elegant stock with Prince of Wales Round Grip. Tight on face / no loose ribs / 30″ barrels ring perfectly / no cracks to wood. Mirror bores with right measuring at .727 with 37/1000 choke (Full). Left measures .735 with 48/1000 choke (Extra Full). Chambers are 2 3/4″. Shipping is $40. Original basketweave butt plate. Stock dimensions: LOP – 14 3/8″, Drop at Comb – 1 1/2″, Drop at Heel – 2 1/2″. Price:$5,500
PIOTTI MONACO HAMMER GUN 2 BARREL SET 12 GAUGE: TERZI ENGRAVED MADE 2004 THIS IS THE BEST HAMMER GUN I HAVE EVER SEEN BOTH SETS OF BARRELS ARE 30″ 2 3/4 #1 IS 010 AND 018 #2 IS 032 AND 042 DOUBLE TRIGGER EXTRACTORS BEAVERTAIL FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP CHECKERED BUTT WITH ENGRAVED HEEL AND TOE PLATES OAK AND LEATHER CASE NEW CONDITION 7LBS 14 OZ X 2″ X 1 7/16″ X 15″. Price:$89,500
F.W. HEYM BEST QUALITY SIDEPLATE BOXLOCK 12GA O/U SHOTGUN: ORNATE BEAUTIFUL GAME SCENES ENGRAVED ON ACTION, 30″ DEMI BLOCK SPLIT BBLS, 2 3/4, CHOKED FULL/FULL, VENT RIB, EJECTORS, SST, HIGHLY FIGURED WALNUT, PISTOL GRIP ENGRAVED CAP, 3 PC FOREND, VERY PRECISE SKIP LINE CHECKERING, 28 LPI, LOP 14 1/4 TO BEST LEATHER PAD, 1 1 /2, 2 3/8, 7LBS 4OZ, VERY MINTY, 99%! Price:$7,650
H.A. LINDER SUPERIOR GRADE 16GA: “H.A. LINDER” , Prussian Mfg. 1912 (HAL&Crossed Pistols Maker’s Mark on BBL’s) , 16GA , 28″ Barrels choked: R-MOD (.016) L-FULL (.032) Bore’s Bright , Chambers 2 3/4″ , Sculptured Side-Clip Action with Third Fastener , Scroll Engraved , Cocking Indicators , Double Triggers , Ejectors , Pistol Grip Stock with Horn Gripcap (has engraved inlay w/original owners name) Dem’s: 1 1/2″x 2 9/16″x 14″LOP to original Horn Buttplate , Splinter Forend with Ebony Inlay at Tip , Very Nice European Walnut with lots of Figure , Checkered Side-Panels and Drop-Points , Casecolor 30-40% (vivid in protected areas) , blue 95%+ , wood 98% finish. Price:$6,500
Parker Reproduction Model DHE 20 Gauge 28″/26″ Barrel Set, Straight Grip, Double Triggers: Price: $5,999.99 Caliber: 20 Gauge Metal Condition: Metal Condition is Excellent Wood Condition: Wood Condition is Excellent Bore Condition: Bores are Bright and Shiny Barrels: 28′ and 26″ Barrels Triggers: Double Smooth Triggers Stock: Nicely Figured Hardwood Stock with Double Panel Cut Checkering Stock Dimensions:
14 1/4″ LOP; 2 ” DAH; 1.5″ DAC (center); 1 3/8″ DAC (front) Fore End: Straight Hardwood Fore End Butt Pad: Checkered Wood and Metal Butt Plate Weight: 6 Pounds 12 Ounces Sights: Single Brass Bead Chokes: 28″ Full / Modified 26″ Modified / Improved Cylinder
Ithaca NID 16ga Side-by-Side Shotgun: Serial no 466xxx 28″, M/F, DT, SF, 14″ Lop to wrong buttplate, Pistol grip cap not good, 20% case color, 90% Blue, wood shows handling marks nothing bad, good bore. Price:$995
#654A KERSTEN ANTINIT O/U ENGRAVED SHOTGUN: 12 ga., 31” bbls., extremely full choke almost down to a 16 bore, fully raised matted rib with 2 ivory beads, action engraved with game scenes, left side has a fox watching 4 pheasants flying, right side has 2 pointers watching 4 grouse flying, both are in an outdoor scene with brush, trees, hills & so forth, bottom of frame has a hawk sitting on a dead Mallard in an oval, also has “FCR” initials in gold on bottom of trigger guard with engraved scene around it, bbls. are also engraved & marked “Bohler Antinit”, right side of bbls. marked “Nitro”, SST, ejectors, cocking indicators, top tang safety, flat panel on both sides of stock behind the receiver, fancy checkered PG with engraved steel PG cap, oval gold inlay in bottom of stock, leather covered recoil pad, 15” pull, checkered forend with Deeley lever forend release, beautiful condition with 100% bbl. blue, mint bores, 100% casehardening, very high quality. Price:$9,500
PRUSSIAN LINDER – 16 GAUGE – 28″BARRELS – EJECTORS AND WELL FIGURED WOOD: Prussian Linder SxS 16 gauge with excellent original condition. Correct Linder markings with “crossed pistols”. Well figured wood with with grip cap with owners name. Ejectors. Barrels are 28″. Gun is in proof. Proofed originally 16/1 (.669 to .679). Bores measure right in the middle of that range at .674. Chambers are 2 3/4″. Right barrel has 15/1000 choke (Mod) while left barrel has 34/1000 (Full). Tight on face. Double underbite with Greener style cross bolt. Excelsior Steel Barrels. No loose ribs. Original case color in protected areas. Weight of gun is 6 LBS 7 1/4 OZ. Shipping is $40. Stock dimensions: LOP – 13 7/8″, Drop at Comb – 1 11/16″, Drop at Heel – 2 1/2″. Price:$3,800
FAIR Rizzini SRC 702 20 Gauge: FAIR Rizzini SRC 702 20ga imported by New England Arms, straight stock with beautiful wood, color case hardening, and gold line inlay. The barrels are 26″ long with screw in choke tubes (included is one cylinder choke tube and one light-modified choke tube). The bore diameter is 0.628 inches and the length of pull is approximately 14 3/8 inches. Overall very clean, one small ding on the right side of the stock which can be seen in the picture of the right side of the stock. Price:$3,495
Browning Superposed – Superlight – OU – A1 Game Gun – Unfired – New in Original Box: 1975 – Browning FN Superposed – A1 Game Gun – 12ga, 26-1/2″, 2-3/4″, IC / IM (.011 / .028), Swan Neck Straight Grip Stock, Schnabel Forearm, LOP 14-3/8″, Drop 1-1/2″ to 2-1/4″, Slight Cast Off, Weight 6 lbs. 10 oz. Same gun as U.S. Market Superlight except for the much more comfortable and practical Swan Neck Stock. Perfect Pheasant Gun with this choke setup! Gun is New – Unfired – MINT in Original Box. Price:$2,950
PIOTTI LUNIK SXS 28 GAUGE: CREATIVE ARTS 27″ 004 AND 009 2 3/4 DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP LEATHER COVERED PAD FANTASTIC ENGRAVING AND WOOD NEW CONDITION MAKERS CASE 5LBS 14 OZ X 2 1/4 X 1 1/2 X 14 1/2. Price:$29,500
J.P Sauer Model 300 16GA: Made in 1937 , imported by Abercrombie and Fitch. 100% English scroll engraving, case color and blue. Action with double underlock and doll head rib extention and side clips with interceptor sears. 28″ barrels, M.IC. 2 3/4 chambers. LOP 14 1/2 x 1 3/4 x 2 7/8. weight 6lb 1 oz. Mint condition with nice piece of wood to original butt plate. This gun was sold in 1957 to Prince David Vachynadze. Price: $6800
Prussian Charles Daly Superior Grade 20ga, 28″: Superior Grade Prussian Charles Daly: scalloped boxlock receiver with scroll engraving, 14 1/2″ LOP over a leather faced pad and a Prince of Wales grip, splinter forearm with an Ebony tip, checkered side panels, cocking indicators, double triggers that are checkered on the face, ejectors, side clips, traces of case color remain on the receiver and trigger bow, some slight blue thinning on the barrels, Krupp steel barrels with 2 3/4″ chambers and choked IC/Mod. Price:$4,495.
Merkel Model 200E O/U Double Barrel Shotgun: 2 3/4 chambers, 28″ barrels, choke F&F with solid rib. Double trigger, front articulated, LOP 14 1/4 to otiginal Merkel Butt plate. 100% case color and blue. No cheek piece. This gun was made in 1955 , light weight, 6lb 7oz with nice piece of wood. Mint condition, probably unfired. Price:$2,950
Francaise Robust No. 7 12 Gauge: 12 Gauge. Chambers: 2-3/4″ Metal Condition:Bluing worn on the high points. Wood Condition: Scratched and dented. Bore Condition: Shiny, no pitting. Barrels:27 7/16″ Triggers: Double. Stock: Walnut. Dimensions: 14″ LoP. Fore End: Walnut. Butt Pad: Plastic. Weight: 6 lbs. Chokes: Right barrel .000″/ Left barrel .041. Price:$889.99
Here’s a beautiful, high-quality shotgun you rarely see: It’s a 12 gauge Charles Daly O/U made in Prussia by F. W. Heym. It’s on Gunbroker.com now and the online auctions ends on Sat, 10/18/2014, @ 12:46:55 AM ET.
Charles Daly was an importer, not a maker, and his company had doubles built in Europe for the American market. Charles Daly side-by-sides are famous for their high quality, and this O/U looks like it’s just as well made. It’s a boxlock with sideplates. It was built in the 1920s, right when Charles Daly first offered O/Us. In its day, it was a very expensive shotgun — $500. At the same time, you could buy a Charles Daly Diamond Quality side-by-side for $450, an A.H. Fox DE for $256.60, and Parker CHE for around $220.
Charles Daly Prussian O/U 12 Gauge – F.W. Heym: This Charles Daly Prussian O/U 12 Gauge has been owned by the same family since its original purchase and is in very good condition. The pictures speak for themselves and I will answer any questions to the best of my ability. The length of pull is 14.5″ from front trigger to end of recoil pad, and 13.5″ from the rear trigger to end of recoil pad. (Correction) Barrels are 28″. Weight is 7 lbs. (Analog scale so this isn’t exact). Gun features shell extractors and safety lever. Choke is tapered, with bore diameter at muzzle being 18mm (perhaps just a hair under).
J.P. Sauer and Son is one of the world’s oldest gunmakers. Founded in 1751, they’ve been building all sorts of guns for a long time now. Some of these guns have been beautiful side-by-side shotguns.
The side-by-side shotgun you see here was probably made for the American market between 1910-1930. I love the scalloped action and relieved fences, and the engraving looks fantastic. Overall, it’s very reflective of the kind of high quality that used to come out of Germany.
Outfits like Sloan’s and Von Lengerke & Detmold used to retail doubles like out of their sporting goods stores in New York City. This was probably an an upper-middle grade Sauer double back then — not the very best, but far from the bottom. It looks beautifully made ,and I’m sure it was quite expensive in its day.
Here’s a beautiful little double I know very little about. J. P. Sauer is one of Europe’s oldest gunmakers, and I’m guessing they made this side-by-side for the American market. It sure looks awesome. It’s on Gunbroker.com with a Buy Now price of $16,995 – expensive, but not crazy considering the gun’s quality, condition, and scarcity.
J. P. Sauer Model 45, box lock, 20ga., 26” barrels: Unbelievable, Grade 45, made in September 1928. Krupp barrel, deep sculptured breeches, side clip, hidden greener, 3rd fastener, fire blued cocking indicator, intercepting sears, hinged front trigger, ebony horn tipped forend with ebony insert behind the very delicately carved and checkered side panels. Semi-pistol grip, horn butt plate, engraved bands at muzzle. Receiver is 100% profusely scroll engraved with 5 highly detailed pheasants on left side and 4 ducks in flight on right side. The bottom of the frame has 2 setters and 2 birds flushing and the balance of it is completely covered in scroll, all interwoven. Perfect untouched screws. 98% color case hardening, scalloped and rebated frame. All of its original wood finish with minor handling marks, but not refinished. This is a very small, lightweight, pre-war gun that is virtually never seen, and possibly the best example of its kind. The quality of workmanship and condition of this gun makes it the very best available. 5lb. 10oz. 14 1/8” x 1 3/8” x 2 1/8”
PARKER BHE 12 GAUGE – ORIGINAL OUTSTANDING CONDITION – 30″ BARRELS: Parker BHE (Grade 5) in 12 gauge with 30″ barrels. Straight grip with skeleton butt plate. Sharp engraving. Excellent case colors. Double triggers. Bores as original at .732 with 40/1000 choke (Full) in each barrel. Chambers as original at 2 3/4″. Number 2 Frame size. 163,000 serial number range (1912-1913 Date of Manufacture). Top lever far right indicating minimal use. Weight of gun is 7 LBS 13 1/4 OZ. LOP – 14 1/2″. Drop at Comb – 1 3/4″. Drop at Heel – 2 7/8″. Price:$27,995
BELGIUM SxS 405 WIN- EXC PRE-WAR DOUBLE- EXC PLUS BORES- EXC WOOD- ONLY 6 Lbs. 11 Oz.- 25 5/8″ Bbls:#1737, A Belgium Pre-War Quality 405 Winchester Double Rifle, 25 5/8″ extractor Dovetail lump barrels, Rib extension hidden third bite, Full length rib with a flip over two blade rear sight, Bolstered frame, Bushed strikers, Double triggers with the front articulated, Open pistol grip stock, Wrap around checkering, Splinter forend with an Anson release, Sling eyes, 14 5/16″ LOP over a full faced checkered butt, No cheekpiece, No cast so it is ideal for the left or right hand, Nice weight of 6 lbs. 11 oz., An excellent piece of European Walnut with deep black & brown contrast, 15% engraving coverage with deep carved oak leaves on the balls of the action, 50% original case colors, The barrel blue at 96%, The stock finish at 92%, The checkering at 92%, Excellent plus bores, It has “W. L.” engraved on the floorplate that was done later. This is a very nice and attractive double rifle that is light and has quick handling characteristics. Here is a neat fun gun in a great American cartridge. Price: $7,250
Prussian Built J.P. Sauer Grade 40E 12 bore. This gun exhibits old world craftsmanship at its finest. Overall in VG – Exc. Condition. Bores are perfect, with no defects. Action is sound on the face with no looseness throughout the drop. Barrel blue remains at a conservative 90%. Case colors have mellowed to a dark French Grey with mottled case color mixed in for a very classy appearance. Just a great gun with a lifetime of service left. Maker J.P. Sauer – Prussia Gauge/Caliber 12 Bore Barrels 28″ w/ 2 3/4″ Chambers. Chokes Mod. & Full Engraving Game Scene, Scroll, & Woodland Scene. Action BLE w/ Crossbolt Third Fastner Stock Well figured Circassian Butt Hawkins Pad. L.O.P. 14 3/8″ Weight 6 lbs. 12.9 oz. Stock Dimensions 1 1/2 x 2 5/8 x 14 3/8 x 1/4 cast off. Price $6950
AYA #2 28ga Side-by-Side Shotgun. As new in factory box: This is a delightful gun that handles like a wand in virtually brand new condition. Matching factory box included. The only reason I know that the gun has been fired is the man who bought it new said he fired a handful of rounds thru it. SHOWS NO WEAR/USE Straight grip, automatic ejectors, double triggers. Imported by N.E. Custom Gun Service Plainfield, NH . Mfct 2003 by serial number. 27″ barrels choked IC & IC. The gun is so slender that the barrels feel longer. Perfect length for this little 28ga gun. 5# 12oz DAC 1 1/2″ DAH 2 3/8″ LOP 15″ Beautiful color case hardening and walnut with nice color and grain. Fantastic long dimensions with checkered butt. This gun offers an incredible value for the money!!! Price:$4895
A H Fox Sterlingworth DeLuxe 16 Gauge Automatic Ejectors: A H FOX, UTICA STERLINGWORTH DELUXE, 16 GAUGE, 28″ BARRELS, AUTOMATIC EJECTORS, EXCELLENT BLUE, MIRROR BORES, TWIN IVORY BEADS. BOLD VIVID CASE COLOR. PISTOL GRIP STOCK, SPLINTER FOREARM, TOP LEVER TO THE FAR RIGHT. GREAT DIMENSIONS 1 1/2″ X 2 1/2″ X 14 1/8″, JOSTAM PAD. 100% ORIGINAL INCLUDING THE PAD, 6 1/2 POUNDS. MADE IN LAST YEAR OF PRODUCTION 1939. TRUE DELUXE MODELS ARE SCARCE. Price:$2,500
Here’s another nice grouse gun. This little Charles Daly is on Gunbroker.com now, and the listing ends 11/27/2013 @ 9:48:25 AM ET. Made during World War 1, it looks like it’s still in excellent original condition.
Regarding Charles Daly, he was a businessman, not a gunmaker. Around 1875 he partnered with August Shoverling and started importing shotguns into the United States from Prussia/Germany. The side-by-sides they brought in were marketed under the Charles Daly name, and up to about WW2 they were some of the finest double-barrel shotguns offered in the US.
Charles Daly Prussian Sauer SxS 16 Gauge, 26″ Barrels: It is an Anson & Deeley boxlock in 16 gauge and is marked “Charles Daly” on both sides of the receiver, “Made in Prussia” on the watertables, “Prussia” on the barrel flats, “J. P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl” on the top of both barrels and “Fluid Steel Krupp Essen” on the top barrel rib. The beauty of this piece is in its workmanship and condition. Adorned with just a bit of scroll and line engraving on the receiver, the gun is in 98% – almost mint – condition. It looks almost unused, amazing for a piece nearly 100 years old! The 26 inch Krupp steel barrels retain about 99% of their original blue with just one little scratch on the surface of the left tube. They chime like bells when dinged with your fingernail. The top rib has a doll’s head extension that locks into the top of the receiver for extra strength. The extension itself is carved to look like a scallop shell. The chamber lengths are 2 ½ inches.
The barrels are choked improved cylinder and cylinder, perfect for upland game and the bores are perfect. Extractors, not ejectors. The receiver and triggerguard are case-hardened. The colors have pretty much faded now but if you look closely you will still see quite a lot of subtle colors plus some areas that are quite vivid. There is a bit of subtle scroll and line engraving. The screws have never been turned and amazingly every screw on the sides of the receiver is held in place by a tiny set screw. True Prussian quality. The wood is very nicely grained walnut with just a few extremely light dings from careful hunting use. About all of the original varnish remains and I would rate the wood at 98%. Finely checkered round knob wrist and forend with no damaged diamonds. There is an un-engraved initial oval inlaid into the stock about 3 inches in front of the heel. The butt is finished with a horn buttplate held in place with engraved screws. Length of pull is 14 inches. Drop at comb is 1 ½ inches. Drop at heel is 2 5/8 inches. Weight is 6 pounds 5 ounces. The gun comes with its original leg-o-mutton case in excellent condition including the case’s original key.
Little John’s Auction Service annual May antique and sporting guns auction starts this Wednesday. If you’re into nice doubles, this is a sale you don’t want to miss. It’s a big auction, spread out over 2 days – Wednesday & Thursday, May 22-23. I’m going to put up several posts featuring the highlights of this sale. To start, check out these great Lindner-made Charles Daly Double Barrel SxS shotguns:
Lot 217: Charles Daly Prussian/Lindner #481, 20g Two Barrel Set: Damascus steel barrels, 28” & 27 7/8”, double triggers, auto ejectors with a Capt. A. H. Hardy case. Very good condition showing 65% to 85% original finish on both barrels. 14 ¼” LOP to original horn checkered butt plate. Stocks is very good plus to near fine condition with some slight refreshing and no sanding. Est. $2500-$5000
Lot 665: Charles Daly Prussian/ Lindner, Diamond grade, 12 gauge, #3615: 30″ extra fine quality Damascus barrel’s, double triggers, cocking indicators, automatic ejectors.LOP 14 ½ , 2″ Drop at Heel. Near fine original condition with 50% to 75% original case. 50% to 60% thinning original blue finish. Very good stock. Est. $2500-$5000
Lot 1038: Charles Daly Diamond grade, 12 gauge, #905: 30″ Damascus barrels. Lindner markings beneath the barrel. IC/ MOD. The stock measures 14 ¼ inch to the end of the original horn butt plate. The gun shows double triggers, auto ejectors, cocking indicators and is finally banknote and game scene engraved. The gun remains and fine to excellent original condition showing 95% plus original Brown and Demascus pattern finish on the barrels with 75% to 85% original case hardening on the frame just starting to drift a little silver, but still very colorful. The trigger guard shows traces of original blue going to natural steel color. The wood remains in very good plus to near fine condition. The gun shows very little to almost no use. The stock shows a 2 3/4 inch drop the heel with a 1 ½ inch drop the comb and a slight cast off of a ¼ inch at the toe. Est. $3500-$7000
Lot 1053: Charles Daly Diamond grade12 gauge #3659: 27 1/4″ damascus barrels, Double triggers, auto ejectors, cocking indicators, and fancy checkered deluxe walnut stocks with pistol grip. IC/M. The barrels show 30%-50% original finish. The frame shows 30% – 50% case hardening. The stock have been expertly refreshed and restored as there was a crack at the wrist that has been professionally repaired. 13 1/4″ LOP. 6 pounds. Est. $2500-$5000
Charles Daly shotguns & drilling used to be some of the finest guns available in America. Even though these firearms were made in Europe, they were marketed under the Charles Daly name and sold in American sporting good shops like Von Lengerke & Detmolf and Abercrombie & Fitch.
LOT 2208: OVER THE TOP CHARLES DALY REGENT DIAMOND SINGLE BARREL TRAP GUN. SN 2422. Cal. 12 ga. 2-3/4″ Chamber. This heavily embellished, top of the line, trap gun has 32″ bbl fitted with raised, ventilated rib, mounted with two red beads, and gold inlaid “Charles Daly Regent Diamond Quality” in scroll engraved rear portion. 3-1/2″ Triangles of exceptional relief scroll engraving extend from breech end. Bottom of bbl is stamped with HAL crossed pistol logo, the mark of H. A. Lindner, maker of what many believe to be the finest Daly’s of all time. Large matching ejector tapered beavertail forend has Deeley release. Bore diameter: .721. Bore restriction: .035 (Full). Wall thickness: .068. Drop at heel: 2″, drop at comb: 1-1/4″. Weight: 8 lbs. 4 oz. LOP: 14-1/2″.
CONDITION: Excellent. Bbl retains 98% + orig blue, slightly silvered on edges of rib, with a few light scratches and marks. Action retains considerable amount of its orig case hardening color, high points and engraving pleasingly silvered. Stocks retain nearly all of an old oil refinish, with a few light marks, checkering slightly worn and dirty. Original pad is petrified. Bore is excellent, bright and shiny throughout. Action is tight. Bbl is on face. Ejector is strong. The finest craftsmanship is evident everywhere on this masterpiece of German gunmaking.
LOT 2209: CHARLES DALY LIGHTWEIGHT 16 GAUGE DIAMOND GRADE GAME GUN. SN 2118. Cal. 16 ga. 2-1/2″ Chambers. 28″ bbls are engraved “Charles Daly Diamond Quality” on unmatted portion of raised, matted, concave rib. Bottoms of bbls are stamped with HAL crossed pistol logos (mark of H. A. Lindner) and “Witten Excelsior”. Scroll flanked circular Witten logos are engraved on tops of bbls in front of 1-1/2″ triangles of nicely cut medium scroll. Case hardened, scallop-backed, small boxlock action features non-automatic safety (SAFE inlaid in gold), side clips, hidden square crossbolt third fastener, and pin type cocking indicators. A Miller selective trigger has been fitted. Water table is stamped “Prussia”. Bore diameter: left-.671, right -.670. Bore restrictions: left -.018 (Mod), right -.010 (IC). Drop at heel: 2-9/16″, drop at comb: 1-11/16″. Weight: 5 lbs. 6 oz. LOP: 14-1/2″.
CONDITION: Very fine. Action retains 30 – 40% orig case hardening color, strong where protected, but is mostly a very pleasing bright silver. Stocks retain nearly all of an old oil refinish, edges slightly rounded, with a number of minor marks, checkering somewhat worn. Bores are excellent. Action is tight. Bbls are on face. Trigger works. Ejectors are in time. A very high quality shotgun that would be a fine little upland gun.
LOT 2221: EXCEPTIONAL CHARLES DALY 20 GA OVER 30-30 SIDELOCK DRILLING. SN 113906. (ca 1912) Cal. 20 ga. x 20 ga. x 30-30. 28″ Krupp steel bbls are engraved “J. P. Sauer & Son, Suhl.” on tops. Full length matted rib has flip-up combination sight for rifle/ shotgun. Case hardened, full back-sidelock action features tang mounted safety (engraved SAFE) with flip-up adjustable rear peep sight hinged through, pin cocking indicator for rifle bbl, crossbolt third fastener, raised rib tumbler end cocking indicators, bushed strikers for shotgun bbls, rifle cocking side lever, and double triggers. Weight: 6 lbs. 10 oz. LOP: 14-1/8″.
CONDITION: Excellent. Action retains 80% + orig case hardening color, silvered somewhat on bottom and fences. Lockplates retain nearly all of their orig color. Stocks retain nearly all their orig rubbed oil finish with a few minor marks and knocks, as would be expected from light field use. Bores are excellent, bright and shiny throughout. Action is tight. Bbls are on face. Mechanically excellent. 20 Bore Daly Drillings are very scarce, and not listed in the 1902 catalog.
I’ve always liked drillings, probably because they seem so practical. With one gun I could kill everything from a goose to a moose — especially if I was carrying the one you see here.
This J.P. Sauer & Sohn sidelock drilling and its in 12 GA x 12 GA x 9x57MM. That’s pretty much all the firepower I would need for anything that walks or flies in North America.
If you’re thinking the same thing, you should jump on this one. At just $1995, it looks like it could be a steal.
Here are the full details on it from the seller:
J.P. Sauer & Sohn Sidelock Drilling: 12g x 12g x 9 x 57mm, 2 3/4″ chambers, 26 3/4″ bbls, 14 1/8″ LOP, 8 LB. Action and sidelocks are mostly patina with barrel blue starting to patina. Bores are excellent! Wood shows handling & use marks but remains free of cracks. Lockup is tight with no looseness on the hinge. Price: $1,999.99
Here’s another Charles Daly side-by-side that’s selling at auction tomorrow. This is a Prussian/Lindner-made Daly, and if you follow this blog at all you know how much I like these shotguns. If you don’t follow it, you can read more about these Prussian/Lindner-made Dalys here.
Prussian Charles Daly Empire Grade Double Ejector shotgun: Serial #1051, 12 ga., 28″ matted rib Krupp steel barrels choked skeet and improved modified with bright excellent bores. The barrels retain 98% original blue having scattered scratches, particularly around the breech end and some fading at the muzzles. The scalloped frame is embellished with a panel of scroll and the Charles Daly name on both sides and it exhibits 80% vibrant case colors with some fading around the balls of the fences and on the bottom plate. The triggerguard also exhibits good color but showing a silver tang.
The nicely figured round knob pistol grip stock rates very good to excellent having a few handling marks over a gentle refinishing and very fine checkering with some rounded diamonds. The splinter forearm has a lever release which still exhibits some fading color and an ebony tip, and also rates very good to excellent as lightly refinished with fine crisp checkering.
The stock has a gold monogram plate in the toeline and an expertly added leather covered recoil pad providing a length of 14 1/4″ and drops of 1 5/8″ at the comb and 2 1/2″ at the heel with no cast. The gun features double triggers, ejectors, and automatic safety, and weighs 6 lbs. 3 ozs. This is a beautiful Lindner Daly built with the precision and craftsmanship that is the hallmark of these early Prussian doubles, and would make a wonderful lightweight upland double. (Estimate $3000/$4000)
HOLLAND & HOLLAND DOUBLE HAMMER RIFLE .450 CALIBER: .450- 3 1/4″ ctg, 26″ fluid steel barrels with sideclips and rebounding hammers. Back action locks with bolted safeties. Underlever opening, double triggers, and express sights. Checkered foend and pistol grip buttstock with Holland top tang extension. In fabulous original condition retaining nearly all of the casehardened finish and barrel blue. Mint bores. In it’s original oak and leather red baize lined case. This is really on of the nicest original rifles like this I have had. Price: $24,500
Fox CSMC DE 20 ga.: Fox CSMC DE 20 ga., 26″ barrels choked IC/IC. The action features deep relief engraving of woodcock and rough grouse and a setter on the bottom with two flushing woodcock. The remainder finished in a deep, stylized acanthus, and chiseled oak leaf fences. Weighs 5 lbs, 10 oz. Maker’s case! Superb condition. Price: $16,500.
BAKER 10 GAUGE WATERFOWL SHOTGUN WITH 32″ DAMASCUS BARRELS: Chambers are 3″. The minimum wall thickness is 75/1000! The weight of the gun is 10 LBS 1 OZ. Good bores. This gun was made for Montgomery Wards as a private label. Nice damascus pattern on barrels. Traces of case colors. Engraving is crisp with scroll engraving on the sideplates and a quail on the floor plate. Price: $900
Francotte or Guild: 4 GA Gauge double barrel, circa about 1910-1930. The barrels measure 39-1/2″ and approx 56-1/4″ overall. The stock measures 14-1/2″ from the trigger to the checkered butt. The barrels retain 95%+ blue and the frame shows 95%+ case hardening. Price: $53,000
E. M. Reilly 12 ga hammer gun: Beautiful 12 ga hammer gun by E. M. Reilly. Thumb lever opening. Beautiful 30″ damascus barrels choked Cylinder and Cylinder. Bore diameter is .725 with a wall thickness of .030″. In a nice leather case. Price: $8,900
A.H.Fox HE Grade: A.H. Fox HE Grade Super Fox 32″ bbls,3″ chambers,bores .742,chokes .047 & .047 extra full. Gun was shipped October 4,1924 per factory letter. Gun was listed as 23/4 inch chamber,however;references say many were sent back to factory and rechambered for the then new Winchester SuperX 3″ shells and bbls are stamped accordingly. With the 15″ LOP and 1 1/2X1 1/2 Monte Carlo stock.Price: $7,850.00
WINCHESTER MODEL 21 – 20 GAUGE TOURNAMENT SKEET : 26″ Barrels and WS1 and WS2 Chokes. Bores are mirror condition and measure .615 as original. Weight6 Lbs 11 3/4 Oz. Red Winchester recoil pad. Selective ejectors. Gun is tight on face. Matted rib with center bead. Checkering is sharp.
CHARLES DALY PRUSSIAN 10 GAUGE MADE BY LINDNER:Features 29 3/4″ barrels with 3″ chambers. Bores are .778 with IC and Mod chokes. Slight frosting, couple of areas of light and shallow pitts. Barrels ring like a bell. Extractor gun. Famous Daly “Crossed Pistols” makers mark. 9 Lbs 5 1/4 Oz.
Wow – check out this 20 gauge Charles Daly Regent Diamond shotgun that just hit the market. it appears to be in excellent original condition. This side-by-side looks like it’s spectacular original condition. While it’s not cheap ($24,000), that price is pretty fair when you consider how rare and well made it is.
Regent Diamonds were the most “deluxe” of deluxe guns that Lindner made for Charles Daly (go to this post to compare it to a regular Diamond). The workmanship on them is absolutely top notch. Just check out how beautifully sculpted the action, fences and toplever are. Even though the gold on this one is a bit over the top, it’s well tastefully executed so that it helps make this a real elegant little gun.
Charles Daly 20 gauge Regent Diamond double barrel shotgun #2390:
Chamber: 2 1/2 “
Length: 26 ” Chokes: IC/F
Lop: 14 1/2 ”
Pad thickness: 1 ” Type of butt: Old English Pad Drop comb: 1 3/4 ” Drop heel: 2 7/8 ”
Both side-by-sides are beautifully made and finished. But aesthetically, the 12 gauge Charles Daly Diamond is hard to beat. Just look at how rounded and sculpted the action is. The Daly also has a removable hinge pin and intercepting safety sears — features missing on the Westley.
Of course, the Westley is made on the famous Droplock action. A lot of people consider the droplock to be the apex of boxlocks. I agree that it’s a great design. I would love to have one, but it sure comes at a cost.
What do you think – Westley or Daly? Let me know…
You can see more nice Charles Dalys that I’ve written about here and here.