Hard-core trap shooters are an odd bunch. They’ll do anything to get an edge. They’ll even shoot a gun with a stock like you see here.
Stunning Special order Ithaca Grade 2E 32 in SxS: Unique and historic Ithaca trap gun. 32 in SWAMPED RIB barrels and High Monte Carlo stock. As shown in other Ithaca Models in Lawrence (Lon) Smith’s book Better Trap Shooting. IN exceptional original condition, this gun would make a superb addition to a serious double gun or trap shooting collection.
Like a lot of guys, my first real SxS was a Fox Sterlingworth. My gun was a 12g with 30″ barrels, and even though it didn’t fit me, I killed a lot of wild pheasants with it.
Introduced in 1910 and built until around 1940, the Sterlingworth was Fox’s best selling shotgun. The vast majority were 12 gauges with 28″ or 30″ barrels. But the company also offered 12g Sterlingworths with 26″ and 32″ barrels.
From the beginning, Fox associated a “style” with the barrel lengths of its Sterlingworths: 26″ guns were Brush styles, 28″ guns were Field styles, 30″ guns were Standard styles, and 32″ guns were Trap styles.
That means the guns you see here is a true Trap-style Sterlingworth, and with it’s 32″ barrels, it would a great gun for sporting clays or the field.
Fox Sterlingworth “Trap” SxS Shotgun, 32″ barrels: A totally original and honest 32″ 12 gauge Sterlingworth. Not messed with and in great user condition. Tight as new. Lever way right of center. Completely on face. Both chokes are original with 4 1/2″ of taper. Just a nice user with perfect barrels. Price:$1350
Model: Sterlingworth Trap
Serial Number: 121061
Metal Condition: Original blue
Wood Condition: Original finish and checkering
Bore Condition: Unhoned and no pitting
Stock: 14 1/4″ x 1 5/8″ x 2 3/4″
Rib: Rings like a bell
Weight: 7 lbs 5 oz
Manufacture Date: 1928
Choke Left: .729 (.041)
Choke Right: .729 (.023)
Minimum Wall Thickness Left: .030
Minimum Wall Thickness Right: .029
Here’s a hard-to-find vintage American double in fantastic original condition. It’s a 20 gauge L.C. Smith Trap Grade, and it’s up for auction now at Gunrunnerauctions.com. If you collect Elsies, bid now. I doubt you’ll see a better one of these any time soon.
According to the L.C. Smith website, Hunter Arms Co. made 3346 Trap-grade sxs shotguns. Of those, 348 were 20 gauges. The site also says:
“Production of the Trap Grade began in 1912 and ran to 1940. The 1913 catalog stated “In the production of this grade particular attention has been paid to meet the requirements of sportsmen who are desirous of a gun for trap shooting, as well as for field, with all of the latest attachments – Hunter One-Trigger and Automatic Ejector especially – and at a very low price. Each lock-plate is engraved with a trap shooting scene consisting of a trap house and a squad of five shooters at the score. We can confidently recommend this grade as entirely satisfactory, especially for the purpose the name implies. With our special system of boring, no better guns are made for trap than the L.C. Smith Double Gun with Hunter One-Trigger.” The price with two triggers in 1913 was $55, and a Hunter One-Trigger brought the price up to $75. Ejectors added $11 to the price, and $86 would buy the gun with both ejectors and the Hunter One-Trigger. The base price of this grade increased to $77 by the time that it was discontinued in 1940. ”
L.C. Smith Trap Grade, 20 ga. side by side shotgun 26″ & 28″ bbls: Serial #8013, mfg. 1916 by Hunter Arms Co., Fulton, NY. Excellent condition. The rare “Trap Grade” in 20 ga. AND two-barrel set – all matching serial numbers on all iron. Grade E with scroll engraved receiver – left panel has a trapshooting squad of five men and a trap; right panel has a lone hunter shooting at a flushing bird. Case color is mostly gone on the receiver, but about 15% is in protected areas. Good tight action. Two barrels included: One 26″ barrel with solid rib, two ivory beads, bright bore, beavertail forearm; and one 28″solid rib barrel with two ivory beads, bright bores, splinter forearm. The 26″ barrel has 98% bright blue and the 28″ barrel has 90% blue with some wear near the muzzles. Wood is fancy with excellent dark burl and sharp checkering – appears to be have been refinished when the red Jostam recoil pad was fitted. Hunter One single trigger works well. Ejectors are strong and throw hulls across the room. LOP is 14″ over pad. Both barrels are marked “L.C. Smith Trap Grade” – 28″ barrel is also marked “Hunter Arms Co. Inc., Fulton, NY, USA” on top. Includes Cody factory letter stating the Grade E and Trap model and noting the 26″ barrel. The shotgun was finished on June 30, 1916. The second barrel was made in the factory, but it is correct to not see that noted in a factory letter.
Thomaston Place Auction Galleries in Thomaston, ME, is holding there FALL FEATURE AUCTION OF FINE ART & ANTIQUES this weekend. These side-buy-side shotguns are going off on Sat, Nov 08 2014, and the sale starts at 11:00 AM.
Lot 967: E. J. CHURCHILL CASED BOXLOCK SHOTGUN: 12 ga Side by Side Hammerless ‘Utility’ Model, s/n 3900 (circa 1937), double trigger, 30″ barrel, 2 1/2 choke, with crown V and other English proof marks, walnut stock with checkered pistol grip and fore-end, heavily engraved, gold inlaid ‘Safe’ mark, cushioned butt, rib sight, nicely blued finish. 46″ overall. Still has cleaning rods. One small nick in top edge of barrels, otherwise very good condition. Estimate $ 3,000-4,000
Lot 968: WINCHESTER MODEL 21 16 GAUGE Trap / Skeet SHOTGUN: Winchester Model 21 Side by Side 16ga., s/n 7353 (mfg in 1937), 26′ barrels, WS1/WS2 choked, pistol grip stock, beaver tail fore-end with kidney style checkering, single selective trigger, automatic ejectors, non-auto safety, solid matte rib, 43″ long overall. Includes original hard leather case. Excellent overall condition with a few light marks. Estimate $ 2,500-3,500
Lot 988: FRENCH SHOTGUN – St. Etienne Manufrance Robust No 32 S, 16 gauge: Breech Break Double Barrel Shotgun, serial number 99916, circa 1920, with engraved silver plate block and trigger guard, walnut stock. includes modern soft case. With appropriate manufacturer’s and proof marks. 27 1/2″ barrel, 44 1/2″ long overall. Good condition, minor wear to silver plating, all original except added butt cushion. Estimate $ 800-1,000
The Fox Sterlingworth was one of the most popular American doubles of all time. From 1910 to about 1940, A.H. Fox and then the Savage Arms Company built around 140,000 of these great side-by-side shotguns to shooters throughout North America. Most were “Standard” or “Field” guns. A few were true Sterlingworth “Trap” guns.
First offered in 1913, the Sterlingworth “Trap” gun wasn’t a grade. It was just the company’s designation for a heavy 12g, 16g, or 20g Sterly with 32″ bbls & full chokes. Ejectors were available as an option.
12g Fox Sterlingworth “Trap” with true 32″ barrels: Good original case color. Gun is tight with top lever well right of center. Mirror bores as original. Right at .725 with 43/1000 choke (extra full). Left also at .725 with 41/1000 choke (extra full). Chambers at 2 5/8″. Extractors. Auto safety. Weight of gun is 7 LBS 8 OZ. This gun points like a dream. Stock dimensions: LOP – 14 3/8″, Drop at Comb – 1 5/8″, Drop at Heel – 2 5/8″. Price:$1,350
PARKER BHE TRAP VENT RIB 12 GAUGE: #207XXX #1 FRAME 32″ VENT RIB FULL AND FULL 2 3/4 SINGLE SELECT TRIGGER EJECTORS BEAVER TAIL FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION WITH CASE COLORS 8LBS 7 OZ X 2 1/4 X 1 7/8 X 14 1/2. Price: $18,500
Winchester – Model 21 Duck, 12ga., 32″ barrels, Double Triggers: Full/Full choked, 3” chambers, Duck gun, capped pistol grip, 3-point checkering, checkered butt, very rare double triggers, ejectors, splinter forend, highly figured, superb, as new gun with long length of pull. 7lb. 7oz.. 14 3/8” LOP 1 ½” x 2 ¼”. Price: $8,250
Sidelock Belgian O/U Double Barrel Shotgun 12ga (pre-war): Fine Pre-War Self-Opener Sidelock Belgian O/U shotgun built in 1933. The gun is marked ‘SuperAuto’ H. Scherrer Patent. Barrels are marked ‘Fluid Compressed Steel’ with all appropiate proofs of that era including 12-70 for 2 3/4″ chambers. Barrels 27″ with solid rib, chokes Top-.004/Bot- .035, straight grip, 14″ lop to ck. butt, Doub. trig. non-auto safety, auto ejectors, Funeral Model finish with light border engraving. DAC 1 1/2″, DAH 2″, Cast neutral. Metal finish 90%++ with only light edge wear. This is a High Quality Sidelock Pre WWII O/U shotgun. Price: $4750
Westley Richards 12 gauge Side-by-Side Boxlock Shotgun: Factory 2 3/4″ chambers, s/n T 10993, heavy 1 1/4 oz. proof. Receiver: crossbolt, side clips, AUTOMATIC EJECTORS, double triggers, receiver retains most of original case colors (some light scratching through clear coating on right side that doesn’t cut into case colors), PROOFED FOR HEAVY LOADS (SEE PHOTOS OF WATER TABLE). Barrels: 28″ length, BORES EXCELLENT PLUS, choked Full & Improved Mod., swamped hand filed rib, blue has somewhat thinned over the years (gun has never been reblacked). Stock: English (straight) style, splinter forearm, buttstock has 14 1/4″ LOP over solid pad and spacer (see photos), DAC 1 3/4″, DAH 2 1/2″, twin Ivory beads, checkering is excellent on buttstock and forearm. Price:$5495
C. S. Rosson & Co., 12 gauge Side-by-Side, Boxlock Shotgun: Model Wildfowl Magnum, 12 GAUGE, 3″ CHAMBERS, s/n 3223. Receiver: double trigger, double underlocking lugs, crossbolt, side clips, extractors, not a droplock but a detachable bottom plate to access lock, retains traces of original case colors, blued detachable bottom plate. Barrels: 30″ length, choked Full & Improved Mod., EXCELLENT BORES, swamped and tapered hand filed rib, nice blue (if they have been reblacked it was a nice job), 3″ CHAMBERS, 3 1/2 TON PROOFED. Stock: no cracks, LOP 15″ over solid recoil pad, DAC 1 1/2″, DAH 2 1/2″, nice checkering on buttstock and forearm, Walnut, pleasing dark color. Cased in a nice canvas covered hard case. Price $3495
Twelve gauge, BH-grade Parkers aren’t hard to find. Even though they were an expensive, custom ordered double, the company made 1,034 of them as hammerless side-by-sides.
But when you start adding in features like 32″ barrels, a single, selective trigger (introduced in 1921) and a vent rib, you’re talking about a very scarce Parker double barrel shotgun. Parker started delivering SxS shotguns with vent ribs around 1923, and they didn’t become popular options until 1926. In all, the company probably added this feature to fewer than 750 doubles.
PARKER BHE TRAP VENT RIB 12 GAUGE: #207XXX #1 FRAME 32″ VENT RIB FULL AND FULL 2 3/4 SINGLE SELECT TRIGGER EJECTORS BEAVER TAIL FOREARM ENGLISH GRIP EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION WITH CASE COLORS. 8LBS 7 OZ X. 2 1/4: X 1 7/8″ X 14 1/2″. Price: $18,500
CHARLES DALY DIAMOND REGENT 16 GAUGE SxS: 28″ IC AND FULL 2 3/4 DOUBLE TRIGGER EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP EXCELLENT ORIGINAL CONDITION WITH LIGHT HANDLING MARKS 5LB 13 OZ X 2 3/4 X 1 7/16 X 14. Price: $32,500.00
LC Smith Trap Grade 16 Gauge, Double Barrel Shotgun: 28” bbls, 2 ½” chambers, Full & Fuller, Hunter One trigger, some dings in wood, bright bores, Finish and edge wear; rubs; case coloring remaining on receiver 14 LOP; 1 1/2 DAC; 2 1/8 DAH, Grooved composition plate butt, 6 lbs 9 ozs. Price: $2,999
ITHACA 12 Gauge Flues Double Barrel Hammerless Shotgun:32″ bbls choked full and mod. Marked on the receiver is “2”. Has ejectors and double triggers. Ejectors function well. Excl bores. Wood is fine cond with sharp checkering. Stock measures 14″ to the end of the orig hard rubber buttplate. Gun is in fine cond with 97-98% bright orig blue. Receiver is nicely engraved with 75% case colors turning nickel color on the bottom. Bright blue on trigger guard. Fine old gun. Price: $ 1,875.
There are lot of superstitions, fairy tales and just plain non-sense in the world of shotgun shooting. If you spend any time on a skeet field or a clays course, you’ll heard plenty of it.
Writer Laurie Hart has heard plenty of it, too. In the piece excerpted below, she calls a few of them out. Click through and read the entire piece for her explanation of why each myth and misconception is pure BS.
Charles Daly shotguns & drilling used to be some of the finest guns available in America. Even though these firearms were made in Europe, they were marketed under the Charles Daly name and sold in American sporting good shops like Von Lengerke & Detmolf and Abercrombie & Fitch.
LOT 2208: OVER THE TOP CHARLES DALY REGENT DIAMOND SINGLE BARREL TRAP GUN. SN 2422. Cal. 12 ga. 2-3/4″ Chamber. This heavily embellished, top of the line, trap gun has 32″ bbl fitted with raised, ventilated rib, mounted with two red beads, and gold inlaid “Charles Daly Regent Diamond Quality” in scroll engraved rear portion. 3-1/2″ Triangles of exceptional relief scroll engraving extend from breech end. Bottom of bbl is stamped with HAL crossed pistol logo, the mark of H. A. Lindner, maker of what many believe to be the finest Daly’s of all time. Large matching ejector tapered beavertail forend has Deeley release. Bore diameter: .721. Bore restriction: .035 (Full). Wall thickness: .068. Drop at heel: 2″, drop at comb: 1-1/4″. Weight: 8 lbs. 4 oz. LOP: 14-1/2″.
CONDITION: Excellent. Bbl retains 98% + orig blue, slightly silvered on edges of rib, with a few light scratches and marks. Action retains considerable amount of its orig case hardening color, high points and engraving pleasingly silvered. Stocks retain nearly all of an old oil refinish, with a few light marks, checkering slightly worn and dirty. Original pad is petrified. Bore is excellent, bright and shiny throughout. Action is tight. Bbl is on face. Ejector is strong. The finest craftsmanship is evident everywhere on this masterpiece of German gunmaking.
LOT 2209: CHARLES DALY LIGHTWEIGHT 16 GAUGE DIAMOND GRADE GAME GUN. SN 2118. Cal. 16 ga. 2-1/2″ Chambers. 28″ bbls are engraved “Charles Daly Diamond Quality” on unmatted portion of raised, matted, concave rib. Bottoms of bbls are stamped with HAL crossed pistol logos (mark of H. A. Lindner) and “Witten Excelsior”. Scroll flanked circular Witten logos are engraved on tops of bbls in front of 1-1/2″ triangles of nicely cut medium scroll. Case hardened, scallop-backed, small boxlock action features non-automatic safety (SAFE inlaid in gold), side clips, hidden square crossbolt third fastener, and pin type cocking indicators. A Miller selective trigger has been fitted. Water table is stamped “Prussia”. Bore diameter: left-.671, right -.670. Bore restrictions: left -.018 (Mod), right -.010 (IC). Drop at heel: 2-9/16″, drop at comb: 1-11/16″. Weight: 5 lbs. 6 oz. LOP: 14-1/2″.
CONDITION: Very fine. Action retains 30 – 40% orig case hardening color, strong where protected, but is mostly a very pleasing bright silver. Stocks retain nearly all of an old oil refinish, edges slightly rounded, with a number of minor marks, checkering somewhat worn. Bores are excellent. Action is tight. Bbls are on face. Trigger works. Ejectors are in time. A very high quality shotgun that would be a fine little upland gun.
LOT 2221: EXCEPTIONAL CHARLES DALY 20 GA OVER 30-30 SIDELOCK DRILLING. SN 113906. (ca 1912) Cal. 20 ga. x 20 ga. x 30-30. 28″ Krupp steel bbls are engraved “J. P. Sauer & Son, Suhl.” on tops. Full length matted rib has flip-up combination sight for rifle/ shotgun. Case hardened, full back-sidelock action features tang mounted safety (engraved SAFE) with flip-up adjustable rear peep sight hinged through, pin cocking indicator for rifle bbl, crossbolt third fastener, raised rib tumbler end cocking indicators, bushed strikers for shotgun bbls, rifle cocking side lever, and double triggers. Weight: 6 lbs. 10 oz. LOP: 14-1/8″.
CONDITION: Excellent. Action retains 80% + orig case hardening color, silvered somewhat on bottom and fences. Lockplates retain nearly all of their orig color. Stocks retain nearly all their orig rubbed oil finish with a few minor marks and knocks, as would be expected from light field use. Bores are excellent, bright and shiny throughout. Action is tight. Bbls are on face. Mechanically excellent. 20 Bore Daly Drillings are very scarce, and not listed in the 1902 catalog.
To go along with post about gun fitting, I thought I would add this quick video about drop on a double-barrel shotgun. If you’ve ever wondered why drop matters and how to measure it, check it out. Very helpful.